While the Left agonizes over its relationship to the Democrats, the extreme right has few qualms about throwing elbows within the GOP. Socialists should follow their lead and accept doing battle within the Democratic Party as the only viable political option.
  • ATQ@lemm.ee
    601·
    10 months ago

    You know how it is, OP. If no bus gets you exactly where you want to go, you take the bus that gets you closest. What you don’t do is take the fascist sedition bus because your preferred bus doesn’t stop at your front door.

    • SSUPII@sopuli.xyz
      8·
      10 months ago

      Perfect analogy! Perfection never exists and parties can be extremely complex. Agreeing with the one that is more reasonable is exactly how political voting works.

    • PostmodernPythia@lemmy.world
      19·
      10 months ago

      I live in NY. Which bus I personally take in this analogy has no impact on where we end up, so I’ll follow my conscience.

        • PostmodernPythia@lemmy.world
          1·
          10 months ago
          1. What exactly do you think would show them? I am not powerful, and the system is rigged.
          2. Why do you assume I’m voting straight-ticket Dem on WFP? If nothing else, our electoral votes are going to the Dem for president regardless of what I do. I’m considering writing in Chuck Tingle, frankly. My conscience will feel good and there will be zero effect on the outcome. The Dems fucked up their job so bad I had to have my tubes out to sleep at night. Fuck all this noise.
    • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.worldEnglish
      313·
      10 months ago

      If no bus gets you exactly where you want to go, you take the bus that gets you closest.

      This is a shit analogy because it assumes that the two buses are going in different directions. It’s just gloating from people who like where both buses are heading.

      • orrk@lemmy.world
        1·
        10 months ago

        why don’t you ask the gays/trans bout “both buses heading in the same direction”

        this “they are the same” bullshit can only be said by someone in a real nice place of privilege, as for me, one bus is already calling to cleanse me and quite a few of my friends off the face of the planet because of who we love and what some of us identify as

        • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.worldEnglish
          21·
          10 months ago

          Neither party voted to legalize gay marriage. The Supreme Court decided, because Republicans are bigots and Democrats are ineffective cowards.

          What have Democrats done about the increase in violence toward LGBTQ people? What have they done about anti-trans legislation or book bans? What did they do with the majority we gave them last session? They didn’t codify Roe, and we lost that. They didn’t codify Obergefell either.

          One bus is barreling toward the bottom of the hill. The other is coasting backwards in the same direction.

          one bus is already calling to cleanse me and quite a few of my friends off the face of the planet because of who we love and what some of us identify as

          My friends as well. Which is why I’m not going to give the Democratic Party a participation trophy on this. I see an existential threat towards people I care about, and no urgency whatsoever from the only party that is in a position to even try to stop that threat.

          I’ll accept the analogy once their bus is no longer in neutral.

          • GodlessCommie@lemmy.world
            23·
            10 months ago

            What have Democrats done about the increase in violence toward LGBTQ people?

            Not a damn thing, they talk big like they are allies, but leave us to defend ourselves and treat us like they are doing us a favor.

        • GodlessCommie@lemmy.world
          13·
          10 months ago

          This queer says both busses are going on the same direction. You dont get to use my community to vote shame other people for your own gain. What has the blue bus done to protect the trans community? How long ago did the bathroom debates come about and what have dems at the federal level done to protect them? Not a damn thing, in fact Biden has advocated for states rights his entire career. So the abuse that the trans community is receiving right now has its roots in people like Biden that supports a weak federal government in favor of states rights. Same argument he made for women’s reproductive rights.

      • kescusay@lemmy.world
        211·
        10 months ago

        Fortunately, that’s not even remotely the situation we’re in. It would be terrible if “both sides amirite” actually reflected reality, but it doesn’t.

      • Ragdoll X@lemmy.world
        13·
        10 months ago

        I think a more apt description would be that one of the buses doesn’t move while the other will drive you off a cliff. Neither are good, but one is clearly much worse.

  • orclev@lemmy.world
    10·
    10 months ago

    We desperately need to abolish first past the post voting and replace it with literally any proportional voting system. I don’t care which one as literally any of them will be an improvement. It’s the only way we’ll ever break this destructive two party system we’re locked into.

    • FuglyDuck@lemmy.worldEnglish
      22·
      10 months ago

      “Best we can do is abolish voting. welcome to the one true party, friend.”