I see plenty of room to pass. Person running in the gutter lane. Sidewalks in this area look fucking rough (thanks, car centric transportation!).

What’s mildly infuriating is the asshole taking a picture WHILE operating a motor vehicle.

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    Most don’t realize serious runners can damage their legs by running on sidewalks vs asphalt

    Something about the impact I’m not sure the specifics

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      It’s not just the softness of the material… Sidewalks have lots of undulations and uneven angles every time you cross a driveway or a junction. Also gaps and cracks

      Jogging 2km on a sidwalk is fine

      Running at a serious speed over 10k on an uneven, hard surface like sidewalk is a high chance of injury

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      Probably people who think this is jaywalking etc.

      On the other side of the Atlantic, any human, horse, bike, motorised mobility aid etc. is justified to use the roads here (except highways unless it’s an emergency) even if there’s a perfectly good sidewalk. Just double-checked and the only suggestion is to wear something reflective or hivis if you choose to walk in the road.

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    The sidewalks don’t look bad and he’s running on the wrong side of the road. Pedestrians are supposed to go against traffic.

    Like it or not, he’s on the road where cars have the right of way, and there is a dedicated path where he can have the right of way.

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      The sidewalks don’t look bad

      You don’t see the slant in the sidewalk? The fucking pavers are uneven af as well. Have you ever ran on an uneven surface? Shit is prone to rolling your ankle. If you are older, probably fucks up your knees

      I agree he is running on the wrong side and for safety should definitely run against traffic. Whether it’s illegal to do this really depends on the local and state laws, I think.

      In some states, pedestrian sidewalks do not exist so the rules/laws are a bit unclear. Not sure where you live but in my area the sidewalks just abruptly end and leave you to enter the roadway or cross the road to get to another sidewalk which may or may not be protected by signal or paint (ie, unsafe af)

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        I’ve seen much worse. How bad that is really depends on how fast he’s going, which we have no way of knowing. Most people I see out jogging are not going fast enough for that sidewalk to be a problem. I’m pretty sure some people I see jogging could be passed by someone on a brisk walk.

        I agree that the rules become very unclear when sidewalks don’t exist. Sidewalks that randomly end are also a problem (I have some of those near me). From the image we have that doesn’t seem to be the case here, as far as we can tell.

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          Lol you got guts for commenting that here and I respect that. Better to risk an ankle roll then to be hit by a crazy person on their phone while driving.

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            I’m not pro car and I long for better infrastructure, that’s half of my YouTube recommendations most days… Not Just Bikes and various other videos about infrastructure stuff.

            I get the sub, and like it, but we still need to realize the realities of what some people have to work with. I get annoyed when a bike is on certain roads, but I’m also annoyed that the reason the bike is there is a lack of proper bike infrastructure and city planning. The two things are not mutually exclusive. I’d bike, walk, or run a lot more of the infrastructure was in place to do it. Without that infrastructure it becomes dangerous for everyone involved.

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        The runner is not following the rules of the road. The driver has a right to be annoyed. The driver is also a shit head for driving and taking pictures at the same time (assuming that’s what happened).

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          We all have the right to be annoyed at anything. Even ridiculously small things that don’t affect us at all. Isn’t that swell. So what? What’s the BFD? If a grown adult would rather run on the shoulder than on the sidewalk, they probably have reasons for doing that.

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            Sure, but they should do it on the proper side of the road if they’re going to do it anyway. It’s a safety thing, they can see the cars coming at them and make sure they’re out of the way incase some yahoo is swerving trying to take a picture.

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        It’s more acceptable if the lane is wide enough to overtake and/or they’re running at a decent clip, i.e. 10-15 mph. But jogging is usually more like 5-10 mph.

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        I agree, joggers aren’t really a problem at all. They move faster than walkers and overtaking them is a non issue.

        I do have a problem with large families using our new wide dedicated bike lanes as their own personal sidewalk though. They really tempt me to fit a car horn onto my bike again… That’s even considering I’m someone who prefers to slow down and wait behind pedestrians, instead of ding-dinging my bell to ask for passing space on shared paths

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        The runner is occupying the whole lane though and they have headphones on preventing the cyclist from getting their attention.