President Joe Biden said Friday that he is planning to request more money from Congress to develop another new coronavirus vaccine, as scientists track new waves and hospitalizations rise, though not like before
Republicans will fight him on this, because somehow they’ll find fault in this if a DEMOCRAT does it.
To be fair, the companies are raking in huge profits on the vaccines still. They can afford to do faster research themselves. If the public coffers pay, they should get equity.
Hey, lemme know when we get that dividend for the oil profits we’ve been subsidizing for decades.
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You get it in the form of low gas prices.
The only thing we get from those subsidies is an impending end to everything we care about with massive suffering in the mean time.
A majority of their voters are antivaxxers, so it is not just because a Democrat doing it. It is the fact that it is being done at all.
Not a majority, but a substantial number of them. Majority of Republicans got vaccinated, and even a slim majority favored vaccine mandates, but that eroded as it became a Party talking point.
Every day i’m thankful to the people who voted Biden/Harris and ousted the criminal fascist trump admin. THANK YOU from Canada.
They are already working on a new booster that should be out at the end of September, but I don’t know if it is targeted enough for the new dominant Eris variant, whose main mutation allows it to better escape prior immune detection, or with the emerging Pirola variant, which has a concerning 30 new mutations whose effects are still being investigated.
So, an entirely new vaccine to deal with the newer mutated variants would be great. And with the advances in mRNA vaccine development over the past few years, it shouldn’t take long to make a new vaccine either.
I’m immunocompromised and have to stop some of my drugs to take the vaccines. There’s no way I can do it again.
Then you should pray that everybody else does, you know
I don’t do magic, but, yeah, I’ll have to be careful.
I just can’t do it again. I’ll kill myself before going through more pain like that. I just got my meds back after having to stop one for a while over liver enzymes. I like being able to button my pants and shower. Being able to work and make money is also lovely.
Imagine downvoting someone expressing their legitimate experience with a challenging problem they face.
Or you got downvote brigaded. Either way, this is a valid concern but unfortunately just underlines the reality of being immunocompromised - you are vulnerable and it is the responsibility of your friends family and neighbors to think about the vulnerable and do these things to protect people like you so you can live as long and healthy as possible.
Yeah, it’s kind of wild. The original point of herd immunity was to cover for people that for whatever reason couldn’t vaccinate. Luckily, the array of bullshit I’m on hasn’t caused huge problems past feeling like shit and becoming lactose intolerant.
Oh that’s a fun one with the autoimmune disorders. They always list the same stuff, celiac chrons lactose intolerance etc etc.
Hopin they make some dope breakthroughs for the group of disorders overall and make some big leaps soon! ♥️
They’ve made some awesome breakthroughs recently. Drugs that end in mab are monoclonal antibodies. Sometimes humanized mouse (chimaeras ftw) or, now, human antibodies. Expensive as fuck, but it’s the only thing I take for RA that isn’t some form of poison or something with annoying side effects.
Fuck yeah, here’s to affordable medical care and continued scientific progress!
That’ll turn those dropping pharma stocks trending back up.
Maybe this time it will go through the correct channels. None of this “get it out quick” bs.
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What does this have to do with anything?
Probably believes both of these are political attempts but Biden to look … someway … and he … doesn’t … so now he’s trying again?
Go back to Facebook with this garbage
Why not the Flu too? Both are similar now it seems and both are a nuisance. Why just a vaccine for Coronavirus?
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They should make covid part of the same flu shot. In fact they should go a step further and make a massive combo of everything you need as one shot per year. Or mix it in the crops every harvest, or our water supply, or make the meds a mandatory ingredient for all table salt jars or something, so we all just have everything we need automatically with the latest updates as and when they release.
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Influenza and the coronavirus are two very different things. No matter what RW politicians/media tell you, they are NOT the same.
I’m pretty sure there’s already a flu vaccine for this year’s strains, what with me having already gotten one.
Right you are.
These days the coronavirus isn’t really severe anymore right? Not saying that research should be stopped, but wondering if those who were going to die due to coronavirus sir to other health complications in combination with COVID probably already did die, which would be a majority of the deaths. (Yes, it is quite brutal but I believe this is true). These days even masks are not worn.
Every COVID variant has the possibility to be more transmissible and more deadly. Taking this with the cavalier attitude you want to is ridiculous. You sound like the “it’s just the flu” people, who ignore the fact that 50 million people died of the flu in 1918.
COVID needs funding because COVID is even more serious. We don’t know how to treat it as well as we do influenza, which is well-studied and nowhere near as novel.
So it doesn’t matter if it isn’t severe right now. The potential is not worth taking lightly.
Don’t forget about that often ignored long COVID possibility either. The research is suggesting that each time you get COVID your chances of having more issues down the road go up. I don’t know if the risk is increased that much yet, but it’s a worrying trend that it seems mainstream media have stopped reporting on (probably because the economies needed people to get back to work).
Whether you think COVID isn’t that bad anymore or not, it’s sucks to get it. I would 100% take a shot every year instead of the flu shot if it meant I wasn’t bedridden for weeks
Not to mention long COVID.
SARS-CoV-2 isn’t really any less severe, if anything the newer variants are more aggressive, but in a way that’s a good thing. The original strain had a particularly long incubation period, meaning an infectious person could do a lot of social mixing before the first symptoms appeared, and the same for all the people they came in contact with, leading to an explosion in cases that could overwhelm healthcare systems. There were varying reports of two weeks all the way up to a month.
Now, between more aggressive strains, and pre-existing antibodies from vaccines and/or prior exposure (even if “outdated”) the immune response kicks in much faster and people know they have it much sooner and there’s less opportunities for spread (even if some assholes don’t care and mix anyway). That combined with awareness of the virus and better treatment for the manageable number of people who get seriously ill means society is able to cope much better while “returning to normality”
Still sucks for individuals who get severe cases even now.
Who fucking cares. I’m so tired of the coronavirus. I got the first vaccine, and all 3 boosters. Plus I caught corona. Twice. I don’t fucking care any more. Let’s talk about housing. Let’s talk about minimum wage. Let’s talk about healthcare. I’d take dental care and optical at this point.
Ugh, if only we knew we could have fixed it years ago by saying we’re tired of it. That would have saved a lot of hassle.
Research into vaccines doesn’t preclude any of those conversations and coronavirus still uses up lots of health resources. Better vaccines for new variants would help healthcare in general.
So, I guess you don’t know how viruses work? Well they mutate really fast. So you constantly have to make new vaccines to deal with the new variants. See, if you had known this about viruses. Then you would have known from the beginning that new vaccines at least every year would be part of the deal, and then this wouldn’t be news at all.
I think everyone should get their vaccine if they can afford it. After all in America flu vaccines cost money, and I guarantee these new COVID vaccines won’t be free. I mean at some point these pharmaceutical companies have to make money right?
That’s why I’m tired of it. I want the vaccine. Hell, I want treatment for TMJ. But if you can’t afford it. All the cool new vaccines in the world won’t matter.
They said it late in the pandemic too: we may be tired of that virus but unfortunately it doesn’t care and it is not done with us.
Oh, I know. Is this vaccine going to be free? I would like the new vaccine. Like, I’m not an anti-vaxxer. But I literally just had to take out a loan to get a tooth filled. How much will this vaccine cost? Because like you said. This virus isn’t done with us. It never will be. How much are the yearly vaccines going to cost Americans?
“I’m not an anti-vaxxer, but am going to post multiple comments saying we shouldn’t keep making new vaccines because they would cost a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a percent of US spending.”
Why would I be wanting socialized healthcare (see first comment)? Then be concerned about what the government spends on developing a new vaccine.
What? When I said how much it will cost the American people. I meant individually. How much will it cost ME to get the new vaccine? I can’t afford a tooth filling, and if you think corona vaccines will be free forever. You are sorely mistaken.
I am not trying to be antagonistic. I genuinely want to know, and you’re the only person that has responded to me.
Why is it that when I point out that eventually we are going to be paying for these vaccines no one responds anymore?
The cheapest flu vaccine I could find was $40. Flu vaccines have been around for decades. Plus when I asked the pharmacist how much a flu vaccine costs. He said “if you don’t have insurance we can probably get it down to about $40”.
I’m not going to be able to afford 4 $100 corona vaccines for my family.
Good for you bud and so happy that you don’t give a shit anymore! So sorry that you can’t seem to understand that a virus that kills people other than you is a bad thing.
Oh, I think you misunderstood. First off i think everyone should get vaccinated. Like, I would like to get the new vaccine. But how long are these vaccines going to be free in America? After all the flu vaccine isn’t free. I can’t afford one of those. Shingles vaccine isn’t free. I can’t afford that either, and I’ve had shingles. It fucken hurts.
If you even halfway paid attention in grade school science, or realized that a new flu virus is rolled out every year to combat the new strains. You knew this is how the vaccine situation was going to work. If you knew from the beginning that this is how vaccines work. Well, it’s not exactly news is it?
Meanwhile my rent doubled in 3 years. I literally just took out a loan to get a tooth filled. I live everyday in pain from TMJ.
I don’t care about it, so that means we shouldn’t focus on it anymore!
I didn’t say that we shouldn’t focus on it. But here’s a question for ya. How much is this new vaccine going to cost Americans? I mean the same people that charge ridiculous amounts of money for insulin aren’t going to give away vaccines right? Is the US government going to pay for these vaccines for everyone? All the vaccines in the world do no good if people can’t afford them.
You tired, but the virus doesn’t
If we all sit completely still maybe the virus will just pass over us. We could commemorate that day and turn it into a holiday and call it “Overpass” or something.
Aw honey.
Oh you mean to tell me that the first 6 needles they offered up did absolutely nothing for the long run? Guess we’ll just toss another 6 needles into everyone for this type of Covid too. Wonder how quickly the whole population has long term health problems due to that.
Lemme guess… you have a degree in immunology from trump university
Close. It was the school of hard knocks. Equally shitty.
I assumed it was Prager U.
Nobody got 6 doses, so you’re already strawmanning.
Second, the original vaccine was highly effective against original Covid. Then it mutated so a booster was necessary, and that was dramatically effective in the long run. Deaths fell. Hospitalizations fell. Long Covid fell. The change in those factors is what allowed life to resume.
Antivaxxers are a shitplague.
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Wonder how quickly the whole population has long term health problems due to that.
I’d prefer avoiding to contribute to the worst long term health problem. Death.
Get your vaccines people.
It’ll continue to be better than the long term health problems caused by actual Covid infections.
This is not going to be different from the annual flu vaccine. None of this is unusual or surprising. Get your shots, folks.
Hey man, it’s your life, but I wouldn’t go advertising to the world if I was uneducated and gullible
And what’s your scientific basis for thinking that?
Turns out the way to approach problems changes as the problem changes. Who knew?
Creationism isn’t a good look.
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