The video shows that Officer Mark Dial shot and killed Irizarry within five seconds of getting out of his cruiser.

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      Clearly enough are that this problem is pervasive accross several police forces. It’s clearly the case in the US, and we have a similar problem with the Police National in France (bizzarly, the Gendarmerie who performe policing outside the cities and are a part of the armed forces seem to have far less issues in this regard…)

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        @Phoenixbouncing Soldiers are more strictly regimented than regular police, I think. Hell, if you fuck up just a little as an MP you are out of that career field. Unfortunately, it’s because of a STRONGER hierarchy and if the leader goes bad they all go with him. Which is why when there’s war crimes it’s usually a whole unit committing them.

        Of course, there’s also the aspect where the Law of Armed Conflict forbids anyone in the armed forces from doing things that civilian police forces do all the time, like using tear gas.

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      No. As an example (probably cherry picked granted) there was that video of the guy somewhere in CA that was shooting at cops and they tried really hard to get him to somehow get him alive.

      But maybe ‘institutional bastardism’? I don’t want to fault all cops as bad, because then you end up with any good cop deciding not to be a cop… which is a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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      If we weren’t living in capitalist oligarchies masquerading as “democracies”, a false report like the cops gave would land all involved in jail immediately.

      Imagine if you gave this police report for murder… and it worked 99.99% of the time, even in cases where there is video evidence of your crimes AND lies?

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    So the cops lied openly twice… The two cops need to be in prison and leadership needs to be fired! Also, cop reports need to be sealed and only reviewed by an independent citizen elected panel. If the report doesn’t match body camera footage and witnesses then that cop needs to be fired and/or jailed for lying.

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    Holly shit.

    I didn’t read the title correctly and thought Philadelphia cops shot Eddie Izzard,

    And somehow the full story turned out to be far worse.

    These cops wanted to kill someone.

    And they did.

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      Cops seem to get a paid vacation when they murder (leave with pay) so why wouldn’t they?

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            I was gonna make a comment about the theories on how child raising and alcohol and other factors are often proposed to make a case that half of everyone in history would be considered deeply traumatized and developmentally impaired… But honestly that’s too dismissive of the vast majority of human history for a discussion of what a “normal” human is.

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              Actually that’s a good point. I’ve often thought that the reason the Baby Boomer generation has such a notorious reputation is due to their fathers coming back with severe PTSD. Previous gen before that had the Great Depression. We’re still dealing with early 20th century trauma to this day.

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                Don’t forget lead and other heavy metal and environmental pollution having clear and proven effects on peoples aggression.

                No wonder that in the days of drinking out of lead cups and using lead for plumbing, murder and general brutality was far more common.

                Romans are a really good example of all this. They had so much lead in their system you couldn’t take an X-ray of them if you wanted.

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            If that is all you’ve taken out of seeing human history and haven’t seen a trend directly related to the use and intake of heavy metals and the sort, and in the modern age the difference between murder rates in the US, by population and police, compared to the rest of the western world, you haven’t seen nearly enough of human history to understand anything.

            Historically, the prevalence of just lead on its own boosted the aggression and sociopathic behavior of the population to ludicrous extents and these days, when that should be very little of a factor, the US still far outranks anyone else on the same developmental level by obscene levels.

            It’s a combination of the US being sucky about environmental pollution and having a serious societal problem with police being murderous asshats and people being OK with it.

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            That’s a (* mumbles) sumthing sumthing bias! You only read and see it in history and media because it’s exceptional. While the mundane just passess as throughout time without even a footnote.

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            Is that the human condition or the prevalence of heavy metals in everything …

            Interesting how people chilled down worldwide the more we took those elements out of the food supply and are only more common in areas where the standards about heavy metals and other environmental pollutants are shit.

            And for the western world, the US is an outright aberration, from general murder rates to how specifically the police are 10-20x more probable to murder people over absolutely nothing than anywhere else in the west.

            Fuck, even Mexico has a lower deaths by police rate per capita than the US. And they are constantly at war with the cartels.

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    How could someone defend this…? They executed this guy and then lied about about what happened multiple times to make it sound like it wasn’t just them getting angry and murdering this person.

    If they want to be executioners then they should stop pretending and put the black hood on while they work.

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    shots fired

    I fucking hate this so much. Every time they get trigger happy they yell it like they’re in some epic firefight to save the fucking world.

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      That’s because they actually think they are.

      Because they’re in full on main character hero syndrome.

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    Did anyone else notice the way he ran and skipped away like a little removed after shooting someone point blank?

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      He was still shooting while doing that half skip move like he just saw a spider or a bee. He’s lucky he didn’t kill more innocent people firing like that.

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    I wish a prosecutor somewhere would look at the pervasive pattern of this behavior and bring a Rico case against police departments and union leaders engaging in coverups. Sadly if one did they would probably turn up dead shortly afterwards.

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    Defunding the police needs to happen yesterday. Tired of these gangsters roaming around with impunity.