I’m having problems with Manjaro again, always after those big updates. Anyway, I’m moving from Manjaro since it seems it will not work (authorization isn’t working properly). I already tried Ubuntu before (used it for 3 months), but moved on since file management in Ubuntu is pretty bad (had to use terminal to copy files and format drives because system wouldn’t recognize me as administrator). I’ve been using Manjaro for 4 months and it’s really good, the update problems ruin it.

Anyway, I was thinking of moving on to something like Linux Mint, Debian or Fedora. I wanted something with support and with people that care for the code. What do you guys suggest? I ask because I don’t want to encounter another distro changing problem with my next distro.

  • Aiwendil@lemmy.ml
    10·
    3 years ago

    “Distro recommendation” questions aren’t usually very useful…all you get is everyone recommending the distro they use. It’s unlikely you can get anything useful out of the answers.

    I wanted something with support and with people that care for the code

    Applies to pretty much every major linux distro that isn’t a derivative and also some of the derivatives that do more than just add some cosmetics (unless you specifiy a bit more in details what you mean with “care for the code”).

    Also all distros can be configured, there is no real reason to switch from something like ubuntu because you don’t like how the “Files” manager works to another distro…you could get pretty much the same on ubuntu as other distros offer and in most cases easier than by doing a reinstall. Really, you are better off trying to fix an issue you have on one distro that distro hop at every little problem you run into…

    • a_Ha@lemmy.ml
      1·
      3 years ago

      @hanabatake’s comment here could be an exception to this rule of unhelpfulness(?)

  • sculpordwarfmuffin@lemmy.ml
    111·
    3 years ago

    I’ve been very happy on Zorin OS 16, it’s basically just Ubuntu with lots and lots and lots of spit and polish (much like Mint, but with a better aesthetic imo).

  • spla@lemmy.cat
    7·
    3 years ago

    If you want focus in your work and not in your distro features just use Debian.

  • 0x6b@lemmy.ml
    81·
    3 years ago

    IMHO - Fedora is the new Ubuntu from a usage standpoint. It “just works”, is rock solid and has up to date packages, kernel and window manager. The kernel is important too because cutting edge hardware wouldn’t work without a compile.

    • stopit@lemmy.ml
      2·
      3 years ago

      I agree and am a Fedora user. Its funny though as several years back, people used to say, “Ubuntu is the new Fedora”.

  • jumanjimanju@lemmy.ml
    81·
    3 years ago

    Id say stick to arch-based and try out EndeavourOS. IMO thats the one that should be pushed instead of manjaro even though i get why that is not the case. Also isnt your ubuntu problem just the file manager? As in its dolphin (or whatever the default is) doing that and not ubuntu as a whole. So you could go ubuntu and just get a different file manager

  • poVoq@lemmy.ml
    81·
    3 years ago

    I think you must be doing something strange that you are having upgrade problems no one else has. I have been running Manjaro for 4 years now with minimal update issues.

    Are you by any chance installing a lot of obscure software via AUR?

    • enebe@lemmy.ml
      51·
      3 years ago

      Same situation here, Manjaro for 4 years or so without issues. A couple of times the repo keys gave problems, but I always found the solution online quickly.

      Avoid AUR as much as possible, and the system is quite stable, in my experience.

    • obbeel@lemmy.mlOP
      2·
      3 years ago

      People complain about system problems after updating on the Manjaro forums. I don’t think I’m the only one having these problems.

      I installed some things on AUR, but I don’t think I went too obscure. The most obscure things I downloaded were Debtap and text to speech programs. I also installed some bash programs.

      • 0x00cl@lemmy.ml
        4·
        3 years ago

        I’ve been using Manjaro for a while now and haven’t had problems. 🤔

  • hanabatake@lemmy.ml
    61·
    3 years ago

    I absolutely agree with this and like to add the following. The ‘updates’ argument is spot on and there are in my opinion only two ways to do updating that are viable:

    1. Rolling releases that update as soon as upstream pushes an update (that’s basically what Arch Linux, openSUSE Tumbleweed, and Void Linux are doing)
    2. Backporting security patches, this is a lot of effort and as far as I know only SUSE, Red Hat, Canonical, and the Debian community are doing this reliably.

    Anyone else who claims to have a ‘stable release’ very likely doesn’t do either of these or ship something the aforementioned are shipping (maybe repackaged, themed and (in Manjaro’s and Mint’s case e.g.) held back for a while for no apparent reason.) My advice for beginners would therefore be: Pick a distro that provides with a release cycle that you like: 1. very slow, only security patches in between releases: e.g. Debian, openSUSE Leap 2. frequent releases, very close to upstream release cycle: e.g. Fedora 3. rolling release: openSUSE Tumbleweed, Arch Linux (the latter has a rather steep learning curve).

    Stick to the aforementioned upstream distros for the following reasons: 1. Security 2. Ease of getting help (huge communities, good wikis/manuals, close to upstream) 3. Longevity (as we’ve seen, these one-man-distros like Antergos or SwagArch, … can and will disappear at any time) 4. You will be actually more helpful to the Linux community (you can and should file bug reports to the packagers, if you find a bug in a ‘distro’ that neither has own packages nor a bug tracker if you find a bug your only hope is that it will be fixed upstream, if it exists there at all).

    Most ‘downstream distros’ are nothing but a ‘themed install’ with ‘preinstalled codecs’ Debian/Fedora/openSUSE do not provide ootb for legal/ideological reasons. Most of the time you can replicate their look and feel by installing a new theme and changing the wallpaper and a few settings. My adive: Go for vanilla openSUSE/Fedora/Debian/Arch and change those things yourself. It’s a good way to learn stuff that is not too hard to learn and you will have a more reliable system, too.

    source: u/xaverh on https://libredd.it/r/FindMeADistro/comments/cyn0hw/why_you_shouldnt_use_manjaro/

    I also agree with @Aiwendil@lemmy.ml, you shouldn’t distro hop and try to fix your issues

  • Jerald@lemmy.ml
    72·
    3 years ago

    I would strongly suggest you to try MX-Linux. I too was in a similar situation as yours 9 months ago and now I use MX xfce and I haven’t encountered one bug like I used to do on Ubuntu based distros

  • TheKernalBlog@lemmy.ml
    61·
    3 years ago

    I would go with Fedora. For most desktop needs Debian can be a little out of date, and I don’t think you want to go through all of the hard work of converting to sid. Linux mint is also just Ubuntu with a green coat of paint and snaps removed. Fedora is easy to set up, stable, and has all of the newer software. Fedora, being backed by RedHat has a lot of support and all bugs are fixed within a timely manner. I would highly recommend it.

  • Ephera@lemmy.ml
    4·
    3 years ago

    Would you mind telling a few things about your computer usage?

    • Do you play lots of games or do graphics work?
    • Are you a programmer or just like to make bigger tweaks to your system?
    • Do you prefer having the latest features or would you rather have your applications work the same for >1 year?
    • Preferred desktop environment?
    • Enjoy working with the terminal or prefer a GUI?
    • Are those 3+4 months your total Linux experience?
    • obbeel@lemmy.mlOP
      3·
      3 years ago

      I don’t play a lot of games. I dual boot with windows to run windows exclusive software and Elder Scrolls Online

      I’m still learning programming and I don’t make big tweaks to the system. I avoid Windows because it’s proprietary and invasive.

      I would rather have things working. I downgrade many software I use.

      I only saw XFCE in videos. Ubuntu is Gnome, right? I prefer KDE.

      I prefer a GUI for some and a terminal for others. CLI programs are good and simpler to run on a terminal, but doing stuff that require lots of arguments can get messy and mess things up too.

      Yes.

  • @koyu.space
    41·
    3 years ago

    @obbeel my daily driver is Pop OS and i’ve had no complaints whatsoever with it. it has a custom GNOME setup which adds some extensions for usability, adding desktop icons and a dock among some miscellaneous usability tweaks, but its best feature is Pop Shell, an extension that adds i3-like tiling. it’s entirely controllable with the keyboard or the mouse, and it has the ability to create tabbed windows too, which is really nice. it’s developed by System76, an indie computer company that genuinely puts a lot of care into their products, whether it’s hardware or software

  • obbeel@lemmy.mlOP
    3·
    3 years ago

    Thank you for the feedback people. You make a good case for Fedora, as people have before - seems to be a good distro.

    I was inspired to ask this because of the browser privacy article someone made. It made clear which browsers are private and which are not, and that’s good. I just hoped something would come along that would give me a guaranteed smooth Linux experience, as Firefox user profiles and Falkon do for privacy.