The Indian rice export ban, the war in Ukraine and El Niño are combining to create a “doom loop” for the world’s poorest people, as staple food prices soar.
Started the food wars have
More very real effects of global warming that will be ignored or blamed on other things no doubt.
Global warming will fuck us indirectly before the weather on a Sunday afternoon is actually the problem, many seem to miss that.
In Vietnam we’re losing crop because of saltwater backflow on the Mekong. Dams have been built in several places upstream and all the reservoirs are being filled.
Mainwhile, Russia is actively engaged in the destruction of Ukraine wheat export terminals, and India remains silent.
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India, Indonesia and the rest of non alignment countries do not need to enter this war set up by the West.
I agree with you that India doesn’t need to take sides, but I’m pretty sure Russian/West cooperation had been increasingly positive since the cold war ended, right until Putin decided he wanted to be an imperialist again. The West didn’t make him invade a sovereign, non-threatening country.
Russia imperalist is akin to someone bombing Iraq, Vietnam and Afghanistan?
LOL
Pssst, you’re allowed to criticize more than 1 country
Is that why NATO and the EU cannot be baddies?
Iraq was a bullshit war. Cheney, Bush, and Rumsfeld should be in prison for lying to American public to involve us. The Iraqi civilian death toll was obscene. Few will disagree with this.
Ukraine is a bullshit war. Putin should be in prison for lying to involve Russia in it. Few outside Russia disagree with this.
It’s not a soccer match. These statements are self-consistent, not contradictory.
A tankies one weakness… he’ll never recover.
I agree; the joke is that multinationalism is used as a shield. Russia is a far-right fascist state just like America has a right and a far right party, just like how Europe is sliding back to fascism, and while China dives into its thought police hell world all while all of the above exploit the rest of the world and or there own citizens to push nationalism to its upmost cancerous potential untill the whole house of cards snaps on the inferno thtis clmiate change.
yes, your point being?
Russia is excused because USA is also doing bad stuff? Because that is a weak fucking argument.
Well… Yes.
They’re both bad
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From what I read India and Russia are really old friends, that’s why India isn’t saying anything and they do lot of business.
Historical and political reasons too. USA keeps arming Pakistan with modern weapons, and they have a single target to use them on. It would be stupid of India to put all it’s weight behind US if that’s a one-sided affair. In an ideal world everyone would side with what is moral, unfortunately we don’t live in that world.
So true.
More than old friends. India is heavily reliant on russian arms. Replacing them would be a slow, expensive process. Considering it is surrounded on two sides by aggressors with regular conflicts, jeopardizing relations with Russia is not an option.
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This reads like an ironic shitpost. No one can seriously believe that one person saying mean things can rationalize an invasion that’s killing thousands and hurtsling food security for millions.
Tbf “Asians are subhuman” is what the nazis used to justify killing millions of Russians, Ukrainians, and other USSR ethnicities. Millions of ukrainian red army soldiers are rolling in their graves.
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I can’t find one source for this that doesn’t come back to elrisala.
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Even if this story is true, one asshole doesn’t justify the genocide that Russia is committing in Ukraine.
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Even if this story is true, it happened long after Russia started their “special military operation” and can’t be used to justify it.
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I can point you towards many racist political figures throughout history who weren’t fascist. Racist is not the same as fascist. Sure, fascism usually requires creating an in group and an out group, but it’s also a lot more than that and needs to be larger than one person. Even if this person is a fascist, it still doesn’t even mean anything. He doesn’t have the political power to do anything fascist with.
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Yeah. All those damned Jewish Nazis in charge over there.
If you were any dumber, you’d be a doorstop.
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You can’t actually be this detached from reality…
Where do you people come from
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I’m ready for that to happen. It’s getting old already.
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While true, at which point does defederating make sense? Been wondering this myself. Reality is full of bad actors so we should be capable of countering these threats without purely relying on censorship. OTOH that takes time and energy best spend elsewhere.
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This is the best summary I could come up with:
The cost of rice — a staple food for nearly half the world’s population — and other essentials, like wheat, corn and vegetable oils, are rising as geopolitical forces, extreme weather and a dawning El Niño disrupt global trade.
In its most recent rice outlook, the USDA said India was expected to ship a record 23.0 million tonnes in 2024, exceeding the combined shipments of the next two largest exporters — Thailand and Vietnam.
The Indian government runs the world’s largest food distribution program, catering to about 800 million people, according to McDonald Pelz business manager Sumit Gupta.
The Indian government has a policy of maintaining reserves of key commodities, and as it assessed the risk of El Niño, and the rapid pace of rice exports this year, it brought the trade to a close on July 20.
“This sharp increase in exports can be ascribed to high international prices due to [the] geo-political scenario, El Niño sentiments and extreme climatic conditions in other rice-producing countries,” the Indian Ministry of Consumer Affairs, Food and Public Distribution said in its statement declaring the ban.
At a conference in St Petersburg recently, Russian President Vladimir Putin pledged 25,000-50,000 tons of free grain to Burkina Faso, Zimbabwe, Mali, Somalia, the Central African Republic and Eritrea in the coming months.
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At the same time as Ukrainian wheat issues with the blockade could be a really big issue.
Is 70% correct?. I thought Thailand and Vietnam were just as big of producers? (we get more rice from thailand/vietnam/cambodia/+ grow our own locally here in australia). I never buy basmati…
What’s wrong with basmati?
Basmati is the only top quality rice out there. The cheap stuff is okay but if you want to enjoy go with basmati
Why can’t South Asian diaspora just buy Thai jasmine rice instead?
Hong Kong here. We have rice almost everyday and apparently, we don’t import them from India. Yet the “Rice Association” said that due to the India ban, the price of rice in Hong Kong will likely to rise by 10% in October.
The nations used to import from India are buying from everyone else, and that drives up the prices.
Edit: typo
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I think its the quality and people only want to consume high quality rice… I tried Thai jasmine and Indian basmati. Can confirm Indian Basmati is really good when compared to jasmine rice.
Asian guy here. I use jasmine for Asian dishes, Basmati for Indian and middle eastern dishes, and generic American long grain for Mexican and Cajun dishes. Pairing the right variety of rice with the right cuisine is a simple choice that can really improve the dish.
hmm, I generally prefer thai jasmine over basmati
they are very different styles, saying one is higher quality than the other is just plain wrong.
At the end of the day, it is about preferenxe. I am Chinese diaspora and have been eating Jasmine more than Basmati since it is not my preference.
Heck even local rice is better.
Must be preference because I greatly prefer Thai Jasmine rice over Indian Basmati. But they’re different.
I prefer jasmine rice for Thai food and Basmati rice for Indian food. Anything else would be strange.
100% agreed.
It’s just whatever you’re used to. Thai jasmine rice is amazing, and I wouldn’t eat Thai food with anything else. If you’re used to eating Indian food with basmati, jasmine won’t be a good substitute.
I’m used to Minute rice since that’s what my parents used growing up. Not sure what kind of rice that is, but the first time I made something that called for Basmati rice, I didn’t like the rice. It was sweet when I expected earthy. The rest of the recipe was good, and I just use jasmine rice with it instead every time thereafter, since that’s what I buy now over the boxed crap.
The Indian rice export ban, the war in Ukraine and El Niño are combining…
There’s a war in El Niño? What does that even mean? I thought El Niño was a weather thing, not a location.
You’re probably joking, but in case you’re not or anyone else is confused;
There are three reasons listed for the price skyrocketing:
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The Indian rice export ban
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The war in Ukraine
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El Niño
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No no no… The war in Ukraine and El Nino are combining. Someone figured out how to weaponize the weather for use in the war.
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Oxford commas forever. Commas save lives, people!
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I’ve always wanted all countries to ban staple food and water exports. If you can’t grow your own food and have your own water, you don’t need to have people living there.
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How dare you advocate for national stability through hard times
A bit valid. Just rough for the people already living there that may not have chosen it
Could do a phased approach over a decade or so, rather then all at once. But the other thing is that places (like saudi arabia) that shouldn’t have near the population they do, are able to pay much more for food then somalia and so food growers in somalia would rather produce food to sell rather then feed their own people. So you basically shift the starvation to the food producers rather than the food buyers.
Why would a country cripple their economic growth like that?
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I mean, Russia man did illegally invade another country and ordered several warcrimes, so yeah, Russia man bad.
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Take your normal pills lil bro, you’re schizo posting again
so eat something else? if you’re reliant on a grain crop that you cant even grow yourself, you’ve never had food security. plenty of other grain crops that are cheaper to grow than rice (which requires a massive amount of water). those pictures of people that live in arid environments means they’re not growing rice, ever
Ah yes, the old “let them eat cake” solution.
cake is generally comprised of wheat flour. does wheat grow that well in africa?
Whoosh…
You’re not wrong.
But this is equivalent to telling a homeless person to get a job. It’s not that simple.
perhaps. i’d argue that it really is that simple. for decades, many countries in areas that are well known, historically, for having famines have been importing most/all of their food because the food was available for export by other countries that are very good at growing things & they had excess. now those countries have stopped or drastically curtailed exports. the end result is that the famine countries cannot buy their way out of famine - and now the population isnt just a few hundred thousand but tens of millions.
It is THAT simple!
if you’re reliant on a grain crop that you cant even grow yourself, you’ve never had food security.
I guess I’ll die
and could you keep it down please your upsetting whats left of the middle class, thanks.
Like at least 98% of the population who does not grow anything.
Maybe those cheaper crops aren’t readily available to them? It does say it will mainly hit the poorest people…
Yeah, the rich 😎
so eat something else?
Agreed, but this is going to require changes by governments. Certain crops often get subsidies, whether they’re the best option or not. There are healthier grains that can stand up better to climate change than rice. Many governments are so stuck into subsidizing specifically rice that they have backed themselves into a corner with a thirst crop that isn’t all that nutrient dense. And unwinding those subsides is unpopular, even if it’s ultimately the right thing to do.
Most rice in the world is poisoned by pollutants anyway. Since rice grows in water it collects arsenic from pesticides and when you eat it regularly it puts you at risk for a wide variety of arsenic related diseases. Ironically, the rice with the least amount of nutrients (white rice) also has the lowest arsenic levels.
What are you talking about? The whole point of flooding rice fields is to manage insects without pesticides
Arsenic was used as a pesticide in many parts of the world throughout the 20th century. Even if it wasn’t used on rice it ended up in the water where the rice grew.
https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/magazine/2012/11/arsenic-in-your-food/index.htm
