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He’s probably not wrong. Makes sense to push for improvement regardless.
Yeah, best we can do is try. Make incremental progress. It has gotten better, at least in my small slide of the world. It still sucks for a lot pf the areas around me, but it’s not as bad as it could be.
This is my take as well. Jason’s got a bitter pill for me to swallow here, but he’s right. I will not live to see an unfucked America. There’s too many people attached to (and making money off) the status quo. But my kids just might if we work hard and consistently.
I felt exactly the same and is why I left. It’s not just transportation that’s wrong, just overall I don’t have the power to change it myself and I don’t think there’s enough or a push for it to change in my lifetime.
I just got tired of spending so much money on my car. Don’t get me wrong, I loved that thing, and I babied the shit out of it. That being said, I don’t want it in my life, it’s like having a dependent and I don’t miss having to wake up in the morning and bus across town to pick up my car because I decided to have two or three beers the night before.
Agreed. I left just shy of 7 years ago. It’s got to the point where American problems don’t feel like my problems anymore. To say I have given up would be a stretch… I still follow the news and vote because I want to do whatever little I can to help the people I care about who still live there. It’s otherwise hard to stay engaged when it feels so bleak.
Talking to the girlfriend, we kinda both agree that we would never move there full time… At most maybe a 1 month vacation. Even from “third world” countries I feel like I live a better life than most of the people I have left behind. It kinda breaks my heart knowing they could do so much better. Oh well.
Even if you move away, not following American news is like not looking at the crocodile living in your apartment. It’s a country whose influence affects the entire world. Likewise goes for China and to a much lesser extent, Russia.
I can’t believe he said his channel is for the people who can afford to move out of North America. There is absolutely no way he would have been as successful if his channel was only viewed by the less than 1% who can legally and financially move to Amsterdam.
He’s not wrong about NA, but he’s being a privileged rich dick. Car centric infrastructure isn’t hurting the rich anywhere near as badly as the poor.
I haven’t see the discussion previous to this snapshot, however his channel definitely isn’t a „how to change x country“ type channel, strong towns might indeed be better for that. What his channel is doing is providing insight into a different way to do things, a push for people to questions the status quo.
But don’t be under the illusion you could change a place like the US or even other European countries like Germany to turn into the Netherlands, that won’t happen in a few decades.
So he isn’t totally wrong about that. Doesn’t mean his channel is worthless for us, just that it isn’t a howto fix this instruction.
I actually do think he’s wrong about North America, we can see real significant change in our lifetimes on transit and already are. It really just depends on what area we’re talking about. Obviously a place like Omaha, Nebraska is going to look different from NYC.
He seems really angry and I think people should give him some space. Being the #1 advocate for walkability and transit in the world isn’t easy. He must get so much hate from carbrains.
I read that as carbarians
That terms also works. Lol
Babe, wake up, new urbanism vocab just dropped
As an American who immigrated to the Netherlands, it’s very relatable.
When you look at how big of a struggle car dominance still is here it’s hard to see NA as anything other than a lost cause.
I find it unfortunate that NJB frames it in such a discouraging way but agree with the sentiment.
There are places in the U.S. that give a shit about biking and pedestrian infrastructure. They’re tearing up a major road a block from my house and are adding a separate mixed-use lane for pedestrians.
In 2024 another major roadway is going down a lane to add a bike lane and a third is in development design talks now.
The U.S. is a big place and local attitudes about transportation vary wildly. It’s ok to be frustrated but this post is generalizing a bit too much.
My entire problem with fuck cars, in this post.
I agree with 90% of what this community says, but it’s all mainly complaining without any realistic actions or ideas on trying to fix anything.
It’s just an venting outlet, which is fine, just not what I want to be a part of.
I think an important thing to note is that he is right in pointing out that his channel was always for people that can move, explaining why you would want to and why he did. The problem is, you finish doing that at some point, and it trails off into “let’s complain about cars”. There was a video that stuck out to me, where his tone was very harsh and unwelcoming to those who might disagree with him. In the comments, he said something along the lines of “If you find “my tone too harsh” don’t watch the videos or deal with it” although I think with more curse words, I don’t remember exactly.
I think that’s a horrible perspective that he’s moved into. As a rather progressive person, including in this topic of conversation, his older videos were a well-measured perspective that I could send to my (rather conservative) family in hopes that they’d understand where he (and I) was coming from. Now, as much as I want to say I like his content and am a fan just because I usually agree with him, he sounds more like a bitter old man complaining in a way that’s not going to do anything other than make people who already agree with him feel good, certainly not bring people who don’t over to his side or help them understand his perspective. It’s all very disappointing.
As far as whether it’s “possible” to “fix” North America… I don’t think it matters all that much as far as affecting our actions. Whether the things we’re doing take hold in 10 years, or 60, or 100, we should start and continue as soon as possible. Being cynical about it, while maybe not being wrong, I don’t know, just seems… useless.
Hard agree, Jason’s videos are the kind of videos I could show to my republican co-workers and they’d actually start to re-examine their own feelings about cars and urbanism. I have noticed more of a shift towards a mean spirited attitude, and it kinda reminds me of the snark you see on channels like Climate Town, which I cannot show to my republican co-workers without them clamming up.
It seems he has given up on it and was asked for his opinion.
Imo you don’t need to fix the US entirely, should be doable to fix small areas you want to live in. It’s nice if an entire city is well designed, but the greatest inpact is in the area you are 95% of your time in anyway, which is much smaller.
Well, he is spot on. Not only traffic-wise, the US is a lost case, indeed.
I don’t think the US is a lost cause. I think about 80-90% of the US shouldn’t be the focus of smarter urbanization efforts, but that’s because 80-90% of the US is sprawling farm land.
I’m seeing sentiment shift around cars, bikes, and public transit. I had a discussion at work the other day and three of five people said they would much prefer public transit or biking to work, it’s just not viable with today’s options. I think local effort can and will spread the message. “If Springfield can do it, Shelbyville can do it better” needs to be our aim. Things like national high speed rail networks are just too big to start until the ball is already rolling.
It’s even more than 90% of the land: 80% of people in the US live in just 3% of the land area. The only infrastructure needed in 97% of America is just train lines stringing small towns to the nearest big cities. We used to have this. The train tracks are mostly still there. We just need to make a deal with railroad companies that we’ll invest in the tracks in return for national passenger trains having total priority on them. Or just eminent domain them, that would work too.
Get money out of politics and things could change very fast. It’s corporate rule with corporate money that is killing the US.
I don’t remember electing oil and auto lobbyists yet they seem to have more power than any politician I’ve ever voted for.
You may not remember it possibly because you weren’t alive when it happened. The boomers destroyed literally everything they were given because they were too busy snorting coke and pretending to be liberated while voting for regressive politics and politicians.
He is right, in that the change people wish for might take more than half a century to reach, but more importantly, the problem is cultural and very rooted in how americans perceive freedom .
I hard disagree on this, and after watching a lot of his content I kind of got the feeling that this was his position. The united states is fucking HUGE. I agree we will not fixed the US within our lifetimes, but there are a lot of major cities that have a good launching point. Mostly in the northeast.
We also have to think about the major CA HSR project that will be finished in our lifetimes, and if that project is a success it could have serious implications for transit across the whole country.
This attitude gets us nowhere. No serious amount of people are going to move out of North America, especially not the United States given how fucking huge and diverse it is. Comments like this actively hurt our cause.
Also he’s wrong that “That’s not doomerism”. It’s exactly doomerism, and it anchors the whole problem that doomerism creates: it asks you to be hopeless about changing anything. Indeed, says you are not part of the community if you think things can be changed.
We aren’t going to “fix” the whole United States and we don’t fucking have to. Do you think there are trains that visit every square inch of the Netherlands? If you think everything must be fixed for it to count, then the Netherlands isn’t Fixed, either. Change is done gradually; sometimes gradual change is followed by rapid chaotic change. Look at the way we gained the right to gay marriage or legalized weed in America. I heard people saying they’d never see new weed laws in America as recently as 1 year before states started flipping the script.
Fight to change something, don’t just give up. This guy sucks.
And almost all of the transit-related changes are things decided locally. Boston or NYC aren’t Amsterdam, but they are very different places for transit with very different potential for solutions than something like a Houston suburb.
You’re talking about one high speed rail like that was a divine revelation but in first world countries we call it building infrastructure
He’s actually been kinda cranky on Mastodon lately. I’ve actually thought about unfollowing him because he’s been a bit of a downer and even downright rude. Still love his videos, but I’m beginning to think he might be kind of a dick.
It’s the problem with para-social media. Just because someone makes something you like, doesn’t mean you have to like them.
I don’t know or watch this guy. Only just seen this post. My interpretation is that he’s just frustrated and he’s demonstrating that. It honestly seems like people need to get off his back and leave him be.
It’s funny how judgemental people get at people who try to incentivize change when they don’t make their message flowery and with padded corners. It’s called tone policing and it’s what they used to do during the civil rights movements to try and debase the messages of activists.
This is not at all what I was saying, and I did not in fact give my full opinion. Based on his recent posts that don’t even have anything to do with city planning, he’s been kind of a dick and lashing out at people. No need to look any deeper than my actual words.
Personally, I think telling Americans to move and give up is a pretty bad message. I certainly get his frustration, but change has to start somewhere, even if I don’t see the results on my lifetime.yes maybe if we just asked nicely the oncoming ecological apocalypse could be averted.
Isn’t his statement that he’s explicitly not trying to incentivize change?
The US is fixible more quickly… with the political will. Cutting the defense budget in half for several years and intelligently spending that money would go a long way.
I just don’t see it happening without major reforms to get the government out of corporate hands though.
Yeah, I don’t think it’s impossible to fix the US. Or frankly anything else. But possible and practical are very different things. It’s possible, but it would take a massive amount of time, money, and political will that would have to basically come out of nowhere. It’s not practical to expect that in the foreseeable future.
But just because we can’t “fix” it doesn’t mean we can’t at least make improvements. Fixing isn’t really a binary. Even if we can’t do much for existing suburbs with their massive sprawl and absolutely nothing you can walk to, we can make city centers more walkable and expand public transit within them. We can avoid building more suburban sprawl. We can make walkability an important criteria for new neighborhoods. Even if we can’t fix things for everyone, we can at least improve things for a significant number of people and that’s absolutely doable.
My Canadian city has been improving in recent years. We got an LRT in the past 5 years or so and it’s amazing if you’re on its corridor (and that has prompted more and better development along it). We’ve added a bunch of bike lanes (proper ones with concrete barriers), removing car lanes in some cases. In our downtown, the sidewalks got expanded and street even closed to vehicles to be pedestrian only (and part of it is full of picnic tables and stalls for festivals). We still have a long way to go and the city still down have a bunch of suburban sprawl, but it is getting better and we should not give up on improving it.
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