• darkernations
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    5 天前

    Then it’s your duty* to educate them because it is a science. Can’t be peddling quackery. And if their material conditions means revolutuonary class consciousness is not in their best interests (ie the end of the US imperialism and their ongoing settler-colonial programmes) then spend your time elsewhere.

    *assuming you seeking to betray your class as a westerner. Marxism-leninsm is a science.

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      4 天前

      Not sure what kind of humans you know, but nobody likes for a stranger to get there, push their political opinions, call it science, say it’s for their good, and imply you know fuckshit in the process. It’s fine for edgy debates on the internet, but it doesn’t fly to build relationships in the real world. Especially if on the other side there’s somebody saying “You’re fine as you are, come with me, I will make you rich.”

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        19 小时前

        Not sure what kind of humans you know

        Non-westerners

        Westerners are fucking pathetic. You coukd learn from the global south (despite less wealth and harsher conditions of capital) but you choose not to. You could learn the science of capital, imperialism and from that how to build socialism scientifically but you choose not to. Because at the end of the day at most the most “progressive” a lot of you will amount to is to spread that loot of imperialism that more equitably. That is not progressive; that’s just an empire stability modifier.

        https://redsails.org/why-marxism/

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          21 小时前

          You’re fetishizing Non-Westeners because the strategy you want to use work there and not here, and instead of changing strategy, you project yourself into a different context. The article is clearly about the Global North, for which what you described has failed over and over. You make politics with the people you have, not with the people you would like to have. Blaming workers for not being receptive to your strategies is delusional.

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            18 小时前

            How are police unions working out for you?You realise Strasserites were shot by the Nazis?

            what you described has failed over and over

            Marxism-leninism has been overwhelmingly successful. Stop being so myopic.

            Blaming workers for not being receptive to your strategies is delusional.

            Workerism is not socialism. The privilege of the Western worker to dine on the blood of the Global South is not my concern.

            You make politics with the people you have, not with the people you would like to have.

            Find better people. Literally genocides amd mass murders happening all over the place.

            You’re fetishizing Non-Westeners

            Western exceptionalism at its finest. You are at best the PR wing of fascists. Be a better human being.

            This can be an oppurtunity for you to learn:

            • Underdevelopment of Africa by Walter Rodney (to help understand labour aristocracy /bourgoisie proleteriat)
            • On persuasion: https://redsails.org/masses-elites-and-rebels/
            • if that has changed your mind then we have whole ML reading lists
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              You live in a world of fantasy. Fascists are taking over the whole of the West. Do something about it and stop larping.