A video which features Ron DeSantis that includes a symbol often associated with neo-Nazi groups has been met with outrage after it was allegedly retweeted by his campaign team.

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    Why is there even outrage at this point? It’s not a secret these people are Nazis. They’ve barely hidden it. Thankfully, DeSantis has no chance at all.

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        DeSantis is going against Trump. It’s very clear who Republicans like more.

        EDIT: So sorry, I have no idea what happened.

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        I was worried about DeSantis at first, but he’s a value brand Trump. He doesn’t get people riled up like Trump does. I’m still worried about Trump though. I drink think he could win again but I didn’t think he’d win in 2016

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          DeSantis doesn’t get the right riled up, but he is effective in ruining everything intentionally like McConnell. He won’t get the Republicsn nomination till Trump dies, but he will probably be the successor.

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            He’s effective at ruining everything in Florida, where he has Reublican supermajorities in the legislature to back him up. I’m not convinced he’s actually an effective politician like McConnell.

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          I don’t think the corporate sponsors of the gop will allow DeSantis. Trump was VERY good for business, DeSantis has shown that he is a threat and can’t play nice.

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          There’s fortunately a lot more opposition to Trump this time around. Hopefully enough to keep him out of office.

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      They’re trying to present it as if it was shocking, to “subtley” deny what they are, but actually spreading who they really are.

      It all falls into their mindset of thinking most people secretly agree with them. They’re idiots who think it is some clever ruse to rally support.

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    Holy crap. In other countries people would be arrested for using fascist and nazi imagery. What kind of hell hole is the US becoming?

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      Becoming? The only reason why Nazi ideology didn’t take off in America in the 1930s was because American conservatives wanted a home-grown fascism, not that imported shit.

      Even so, there was that massive Nazi rally at Madison Square Garden that everyone forgets about. Allen Dulles, who went on to become the head of the CIA when it was formed, is said to have shed real tears when America declared war on Germany.

      It was also an American Neo-Nazi who created Holocaust Denialism.

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        America First was only one such group, the German Abwehr was very active in America.

        Father Coughlin had a radio audience of tens of millions and literally read Goebbels’ propaganda over the air. He had his own militia group.

        The Silver Legion was another one.

        A man named Leon Lewis formed a civilian spy ring that was tracking Nazis in Los Angeles. One of its members even warned congress of a planned attack on the Hercules Powder plant a year before it was blown up (cause still officially unknown).

        I think Pearl Harbor is the main reason this stuff was stopped.

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      Somehow, we’ve fully confused facts for opinions, and now you’re just allowed to say whatever hateful nonsense you want because pearl-clutching centrists don’t believe anyone can make restrictions on speech that couldn’t be abused.

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      Our first amendment to our constitution gives us protections not to be arrested for unsavory speech. It’s a knife that cuts in every direction. Trump couldn’t just lock up AOC, willynilly, for her trashing of him on the daily.

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    "Newsweek has not been able to verify if it had been shared, or the account from which the clip was retweeted from. ’

    So… They just published this article without confirming that it even happened? I’m not doubting that it did because it seems pretty on brand but you would think a major news outlet would make sure before they publish an article stating it did.

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    I guess Rhonda Sandtits is trying really hard to be as equally awful as the orange shitstain that he’s running against

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          Right?

          I dislike water chestnuts, but I’d hate one soaked in radioactive diarrhea a lot more.

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            Another quote to add to my now begun collection of (political) analogies. The second one after “Voting for [right wing party name] is like shitting in your own bed because you’re angry about not being able to sleep at night”

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          This one in particular isn’t doing a good job of it though, considering he’s been biting the hand that feeds Florida with his Disney feuds. Really, clowns like DeSantis should be all the proof corporate America needs to understand these nazis will turn on them in a heartbeat too, but capitalism loves fascism too much to really step in.

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        I’m not a fan of either party but one of them are outright fascists courting the most hateful ignorant people to win votes.

        The other are corporate sellouts, maybe one day if we all go vote we can drag the discussion back to the left a little and get an actual lefty candidate instead of corpo removed

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          The DNC is literally just a corporation and there is absolutely no future for left politics within it’s hostile structure. As the rate of profit continues to fall, they will continue to follow the republicans in implementing fascist policies because those are the short-term profitable policies their corporate owners demand.

          The success of mild democratic socialism in some western countries was a historical anomaly that owed it’s existence to two conditions that no longer exist: the presence of a colonial economic bounty, and the need to complete with the Soviet Union.

          I’m realizing this comes off terse and hostile, sorry, im just typing in a hurry because my battery is dying lol

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            Listen, you’re not wrong in the long term. But right at this moment in history a true dem majority in both chambers brings the feasible voting reform (new voting rights bill and maaaaaaaaybe ranked choice voting (I know that’s a pipe dream)) that can lead towards true reform without a revolution that will only injure poor people more than rich people like they always do.

            If the repubs right now win, we’re going to see a war. Or worse, just a straight up dictatorship

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              We already live in a dictatorship and we already have a war

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                  When was the last time you voted on whether to invade another country, or double the price of food, or to turn something as simple and basic as health care into a luxury commodity until people can’t afford to have teeth? I don’t remember voting to let covid rip, or give tanks and murder robots to the cops, or to ignore climate change for decades. I was never consulted on if we should have the world’s largest system of prison slavery.

                  All of these decisions were made for us, at our expense, because they made the donor class more money, and we live in a dictatorship of the rich.

                  “The United States is also a one-party state, but in typical American Extravagance, they have two of them.”

                  -Julius Nyere, first president of Tanzania

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          They are and it’s the main reason both are against any other parties in the US. I find it absolutely hilarious that people defend either party when wage growth is nonexistent. Health care and insurance is a fucking racket and housing prices and rents are ridiculous. But hey cheer for my side, they’re better! 🤡🤡🤡

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          Supreme court justices from both parties voted unanimously to kill ethnic reforms. Yea, just the Republicans are corrupt. The house and Senate voted down a ban on stock trading. Yeah, keep up your fangirling for your side.

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      Trump is a narcissistic buffoon, he does evil but it is like an elephant in a glass shop, he was lashing out everywhere and especially at anything Obama did. Ron is intelligent and calculating. He knows exactly what he is doing. Both would damage the country immensely, but I think Ron would do so much more effectively. He’s also only 44, this stuff isn’t going away.

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    Anyone have an archive link to the post and video? I want to share it. People need to know.

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      It’s more aesthetically pleasing and rolls off the tongue better than “regurgitated xcrement”

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    If this video wasn’t created to highlight that Desantis is a fascist then we should definitely start doing that and getting him to unironically support them lmao

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    Is “wojack” really associated with nazis, or is this another pepe the frog situation?

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      Me: I don’t know what that is, let me check the article

      Sees the picture

      Me: uh, yeah, that looks like some obvious nazi or nazi suggestive, shit

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          Uh, no. The imagery of WW2 era style uniformed soldiers basking in the radiance of a glowing nazi-like symbol.

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            Sure, but I was asking about the “wojack” meme specifically. That’s been around for a while and I never got the impression that it was a far right thing.

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          Yes, I don’t know why the article even mentions the doomer because the neonazi symbol in question is the sonnenrad at the end. It honestly almost comes off as a deliberate misdirection.

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      Now I think it’s more neutral, but it depends on the context he’s placed in and what accessories the artist adds to him.