This must be one of the most disgusting pictures i have seen in a long time but using gazan suffering like this is crazy. If there were things to discuss, they would need to be brought forward and sufficiently sourced. This picture definitely fits into the israeli false flag category.
Strong alternative to die Linke is a must
Hopefully the DKP can take their place
The best way to make sure of this is to step up and get into the dkp and push for strong marxist leninist perspectives. among others: to take out the “failure of the ussr and gdr” from their programme and put in “the destruction of the ussr and gdr”.
otherwise, the programme is pretty good and HUGELY better than ANY other group i have seen so far, including KO and KA.
Agreed. But we also need to do more to reach out to people who have leftist inclinations and convince them of the futility of supporting Die Linke. Because unfortunately this, much more than any minor errors in the DKP programme, is the main obstacle to forming a real leftist opposition in Germany. It is the fact that there are so many people with good intentions and who have values that align very much with ours but who are unfortunately still naive and easily taken in by the nice words of the liberal-left controlled opposition that Die Linke represents.
How? How can we reach them better?
I generally tend to agree on that point, as I do on most things i have read from you so far, comrade.
One question looms in the back of my mind though:
Didnt the bolsheviks just leave the mensheviks be and took care of doing the right thing over and over? Currently, in my perspective, that is being present and loud at palestine solidarity events and anti war events and such.
Feel free to point holes into that. :)
One: the Bolsheviks waged an intense ideological and propaganda struggle against the Mensheviks, publishing frequent polemics against the Mensheviks’ erroneous positions in Bolshevik aligned printed media.
Two: the Bolsheviks had the advantage of being in the majority, with most of the workers’ Soviets being Bolshevik aligned just before the revolution. The DKP has virtually no presence in most German unions today, nor among most of the left-leaning intelligentsia (leftist university students, etc.).
As for the point two, Bolsheviks were actually vastly outnumbered by Mensheviks and SRs in both the unions and the Soviets until a couple months before the Revolution, only gaining the majority support later due to their consistent anti-war and anti-burgois stance and the other parties being committed to continuing the war, constantly siding with capitalists and landlords and refusing to take power from the Provisional Government.
I think Germany is now a mess. Political instability (for the bourgeoisie) is a ground for AfD to grow. Another problem is that left wingers are bought by die Linke’s cheap, tailist, bourgeoisie-leaning program.
I’m kinda skeptical about DKP can take their places since they’re weak and sometimes swing between euro-communism and left-wing nationalism. Their problem is that their young organizations are not well organized and missing to reach to Ausländer (foreigners). Another problem is the unions. I don’t know how but SPD members always take control of the unions and make them to be SPD vote depo.
I hope that they can manage to solve their problems, tho. I hate to see people call themselves socialist/communist and votes for SPD or die Linke.
I agree that its a mess but I think we need to accept that the DKP has the makings of a bolshevik party and we can make it what we need.
The one point that we need to work on is anti-dogmatism. germany has been perverted through imperialism and the alt right wins through “leftist” demagoguery and traditionalism. We cant ask for a german communist party to leave out the “german” part. As I mentioned a couple days ago, I’m not pro nationalism but I think we need to accept that the working class does not want the international capitals culture on their soil, which i think is apt. Imo we need a similar system to socialism with chinese characteristics to get the working class on board. Ideas to preserve german culture (I mentioned this before: stuff like sütterlin scripture and fachwerk housing) while abolishing any supremacist ideology, which isnt a thing inside the dkp from what I have seen so far. We absolutely must evade the idiocy of the “die linke” party by trying this “brandmauer” crap and stand in for our goals, no matter who stands next to us. Getting out of the EU and NATO is priority before distancing ourselves from any other party, including the right wingers.
Feel free to point out contradictions. Please note: we only discuss respectful and we try to use dialectical and historical materialism to arrive at new conclusions. No personal attacks, no “common sense”.
We absolutely must evade the idiocy of the “die linke” party trying this “Brandmauer” crap […] Getting out of the EU and NATO is priority
100% this.
As I mentioned a couple days ago, I’m not pro nationalism but I think we need to accept that the working class does not want the international capitals culture on their soil, which i think is apt.
Since, I’m not a biodeutsch and my family came here to be workers in Germany, does it make me product of a “international capitals culture”? Doesn’t it this contradict with proletarian internationalism? As If, all German workers have the same culture while the Ausländer culture is the “international capitals culture”.
Ideas to preserve german culture (I mentioned this before: stuff like sütterlin scripture and fachwerk housing) while abolishing any supremacist ideology
Preserving a “culture” is a historically bourgeoisie method to divide class solidarity. As long as, we can’t come together by preserving a proletarian solidarity we are doomed to fail. Instead of a culture, emphasizing the class interest is the right thing to do. Bolsheviks are never said that “preserving the Russian culture” instead they built their party on a proletarian international basis. That’s why, Stalin is Georgian, Sverdlov is Jewish and many red army officers were not ethnically Russian. That is the foundation for a genuine Bolshevik party.
Getting out of the EU and NATO is priority before distancing ourselves from any other party, including the right wingers.
I agree on the EU and NATO issue. But, I think clarifying your stance on problems like racism is a must thing to do to gain a international community support imo.
Since, I’m not a biodeutsch and my family came here to be workers in Germany, does it make me product of a “international capitals culture”?
ABSOLUTELY NOT and I hope you understand that while I sympathize with this maybe coming off like some cryptorightwinger it is absolutely not intended that way. When I talk about international capitalism I talk about german people identifying over which iphone they have instead of talking about “Reeddächer” and other things that distinguish our different localities.
Doesn’t it this contradict with proletarian internationalism?
From what I’ve read so far it doesnt. Stalin was the one taking care of preserving the culture of the more than ten different countries, nationalities and ethnicities in the ussr. that is what I’m talking about. The bourgoisie is trying to make “preserving culture” the anvil to smash proletarian revolution on because they can tell the right wingers the left want to destroy germany (not true) and they can tell the leftlibs that any preservation of any culture is fascism or racusm (not true either).
As If, all German workers have the same culture while the Ausländer culture is the “international capitals culture”.
That is exactly what they are trying to split the working class over. Its not the same if we have a dönerbude, next to a fallaffelstand, next to a chinese restaurant in opposition to starbucks, next to mcdonalds, next to five guys burgers.
Its the same issue the ussr had back then and china has today. Germany does not have one culture. it has many. some are very old and some have more recently developed. the german turks for example have their own culture, a blend of turkish and german with a huge drop of capitalist exploitation. Stalin would now need (same as the chinese do) to work out what is the cultural details and how they interact and how to preserve each and every one of them while rooting out fascist and capitalist tendencies.
I can write more to this later but I have to go now.
ABSOLUTELY NOT and I hope you understand that while I sympathize with this maybe coming off like some cryptorightwinger it is absolutely not intended that way. When I talk about international capitalism I talk about german people identifying over which iphone they have instead of talking about “Reeddächer” and other things that distinguish our different localities.
Germany does not have one culture. it has many. some are very old and some have more recently developed. the german turks for example have their own culture, a blend of turkish and german with a huge drop of capitalist exploitation
The food and traditions a Turkish-German family has built over 50 years is German culture. The daily life in a Berlin workers’ district is different from a Bavarian village. Which one do you “preserve”? When you start picking and choosing, you inevitably exclude someone. And exclusion is the opposite of building a united working class. And this leads to chauvinism.
You’re angry at consumer culture. You’re right to hate the iPhone, Starbucks, McDonald’s. But that’s not “international capital’s culture” it’s capitalist consumer culture. It’s the result of the profit machine needing to sell the same stuff everywhere. The real enemy isn’t the culture it spreads, but the capitalist class itself. The Chinese worker assembling the iPhone, the German worker in debt to buy it, and the student working a shitty job at Starbucks they’re all in the same boat. What unites them isn’t the coffee they drink or the phone they use; it’s that they are all being exploited for profit.
From what I’ve read so far it doesnt. Stalin was the one taking care of preserving the culture of the more than ten different countries, nationalities and ethnicities in the ussr. that is what I’m talking about. The bourgoisie is trying to make “preserving culture” the anvil to smash proletarian revolution on because they can tell the right wingers the left want to destroy germany (not true) and they can tell the leftlibs that any preservation of any culture is fascism or racusm (not true either).
You’re Misreading the Stalin Example. Stalin’s policy of “national in form, socialist in content” happened after a revolution in a crumbling empire. Its goal was to bring dozens of oppressed nations (Ukrainians, Georgians, Uzbeks) into the Soviet project by letting them speak their languages and practice their cultures, while steering them toward a common socialist goal. It was a post-revolutionary strategy to hold a vast, diverse country together.
What you’re proposing in Germany is the exact opposite. You’re starting with an existing nation-state and trying to define and “preserve” a German culture. This isn’t about lifting up oppressed minorities; it’s about defining a majority identity. That path, even with the best intentions, naturally drifts toward nationalism. It starts with “protecting our traditions” and ends up drawing a line between “us” and “them.”
Lastly, comrade my intention isn’t attack you or offend you at all. I doubt about your thoughts that it will lead to left-wing nationalism. That’s why, I’m depressed to see still we’re far from united working class. I’ve been in some groups that had the same ideas as you and got purged for being “divise”. I’m oppressed as a worker and being foreigner in this country and no vanguard party on the horizon.
I hope the same thing
Why can’t we just revive the SED?
It’s giving me goosebumps. It will scare bourgeoisie so much. I would like see it. SED & RAF revival will literally can change the political discourse on left intelligentsia
Help support FDJ. They’re still active.
I’ve seen in it their ads when I was in Volkskammer. Didn’t know they are literally active. How can we support it? Sadly, I’m not young anymore to participate.
