Repugnant comments in response to someone comparing Iran to Ghorman. Libs truly cannot have a modicum of humanity with the third world. These same people will say “don’t let perfect be the enemy of good” when asking you to support the people who bombed Gaza to rubble. A LOT of Ukraine flag bio posting in there as well. People saying Ukraine is the real perfect victim cause their government has never hurt anyone. Yeah 8 years of bombing schools and arming literal nazis was just nothing, just epic wholesome shit. They want to pretend to be anti-fascist cause they watched a show, but they will worship actual fascists in a second

I said at the time that the choice to make the Ghor French-coded belied the fact that they couldn’t imagine making audiences empathize with “imperfect” victims or even minority coded victims.

It is a dead-end, not radicalism or a call to action. These people jack off to “I have friends everywhere” signs cause they recognize a fellow consumer, but they will not recognize the legitimacy of states opposing the west.

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    That’s not Iran saying that it killed thousands of protesters. Of course, Al Jazeera wrote it in a way such that if you want to read it that way, you will.

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      I think if the people killed were predominantly security forces and innocent bystanders that would have been emphasized a lot more by state media, and it would have been cast as a terror attack instead of insurrection.

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        The quoted statement by Iran literally did emphasize precisely that, the rest was editorializing and quoting “respectable western organizations” by Al Jazeera.

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          This is cope. A lot of people were killed. Whether you think it was justified is another thing but accept it. This place went crazy last month when Good and Pretti were killed by ICE. Two people.

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            You can not like something a country does and also not want that country to be bombed. Because let’s be real: the people who did the killing aren’t getting justice. Did those 150 girls deserve to die because some police thug was doing police thug shit?

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              Call me AALewis because I’m going to quote myself again.

              Liberals hypocrisy monger over “queers for Palestine” because they can’t grasp the idea of being opposed to genocide on principle.

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              You can not like something a country does and also not want that country to be bombed

              Correct! That is what I am saying. I am further saying that lying about what the country did because you don’t want it to be bombed is stupid. I am attracted to socialism because I want to understand and act within the world as it is.

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                That wasn’t clear when the comment read

                This place went crazy last month when Good and Pretti were killed by ICE. Two people.

                Which IMO sounds like bait. Either you’re implying that we are racist or xenophobic because there’s a stronger reaction to two white Americans being killed than some brown women overseas, or you’re calling Hexbear hypocritical. I don’t believe either of these things are true.

                I believe we hate America and want to see the burger Reich burn to the ground and don’t need to waffle around who is doing the bombing. The Americans need to be punished because they’re a bunch of greedy, selfish, incredibly stupid and racist people who make the entire world worse for being here. There’s some good Americans but they’re outnumbered by all flavors of liberalism.

                I don’t care if Iran wins, I just want murica to lose

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              Imagine even, say, a few hundred protesters dying here. What would be the reaction? It would be quite large. It would be talked about a lot, even if they were, like, J6 type protesters. People wouldn’t sweep the event under the rug and pretend it didn’t affect anything.

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                  I think it’s a very interesting conversation about what it means, within a humanistic project, to support a government that killed a bunch of people who you plausibly would have been among if you had been born there.

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                    What is humanism? Killing families is bad, I still don’t forsake the red army for decisions made when under attack. Every anti imperial project in history has killed people, the IRI has its fair share of blood that I wouldn’t personally approve of. Nevertheless, Zionism must be eradicated and they’re the ones doing it, while the rioters are armed by the Zionists. I know where I stand

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              I wouldn’t go that hard as that because I think this place is better about that than most, but yeah that is the general miasma in which we swim every day in the west.

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            The only thing I’m responding to is your assertion that Iran said that they killed thousands of protesters which was not factual.