Hello all! I am moving here from Hexbear. I was user ‘feelingyourselfdisintergrate’. I left after I discovered the mods support the sexual exploitation of Women. I was accused of being a SWERF and hating sex workers (despite the fact I do sex work myself). Anyway, I was told Lemmygrad might be a better fit, and it does seem to have a stronger idealogical core. Hopefully I fit in here!

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    24 days ago

    i agree with this take in a general sense but i think as regards that specific argument, the hostility demonstrates a certain lack of concern for the consequences of their positions at least. it’s one thing to believe the sex trade is “identical to any other industry”, whatever that means. it’s another for established users and moderators of a left-wing website to be outright hostile to even the suggestion that some form of commodified labor might not be completely, entirely voluntary. it’s difficult for me to assume good faith under such vitriol. i don’t want to accuse the general hexbear of anything, or make a character judgement about anyone involved in that argument. but such hostility very much resembles the hostility of the western liberal to things that, on some level at least, they know are true:

    In short: Westerners aren’t helpless innocents whose minds are injected with atrocity propaganda, science fiction-style; they’re generally smug bourgeois proletarians who intelligently seek out as much racist propaganda as they can get their hands on. This is because it fundamentally makes them feel better about who they are and how they live.

    - Roderic Day, Masses, Elites, and Rebels

    1. They did not respect, or care about, the actual facts of the matter, except to the extent that they viewed such facts with hostility.
    1. Being told that the Bad Thing they were purportedly upset about wasn’t real only made them more upset. Proof that the 23rd largest corporation in America was not in league with the Devil made them defensive and very, very angry.

    - Fred Clark, False Witnesses

    idk how to end this other than to say i’m still very unsure why hexbears have chosen that as their hill to die on. but i know why the general western leftist (e.g. hasan piker) has.

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      24 days ago

      actually on further thought, reaction to living in a puritan/christian society at least explains some of the hostility