• ComradeSalad
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    19 days ago

    Are slop consumers entitled to a creation tutorial under every meme? Or can they just politely ask for information and have a conversation?

    You think people on the grad should be slop consumers?

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      19 days ago

      If they so decide they absolutely should, yes. That said, why does ai generate so much reactionary potential in those who usually are the most progressive of society? Its really beyond me that nobody seems to stop and look at theory for reconciliation of a longstanding issue.

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        If they so decide they absolutely should, yes. That said, why does ai generate so much reactionary potential in those who usually are the most progressive of society? Its really beyond me that nobody seems to stop and look at theory for reconciliation of a longstanding issue.

        Because the material (set of relations rather than stresses) is always before the idea. DM is a superpower!

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        19 days ago

        And who decides that exactly? The poster? Or grad members?

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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          19 days ago

          I mean this is why we have voting on the server and allow discussion. It’s pretty clear from this thread what the majority view on grad is.

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            19 days ago

            Seems like the opinion is pretty heavily split, that’s nowhere near a “majority opinion” despite what you might tell yourself.

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              19 days ago

              There’s literally you and two other people restating the same reactionary points while the rest of the server is trying to educate you.

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                19 days ago

                A loud contingent isn’t “the majority”, you literally highlighted voting, not replies. There’s also a whole lot more than 2 people if you’re not going to be facetious.

                Maybe people just don’t enjoy getting dogpiled by the AI-bro division? Wonder if that might play a part in anything.

                It’s not reactionary to be hostile towards a fascist slop machine.

                • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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                  19 days ago

                  It’s absolutely reactionary to use Nietzschean talking points about art being reserved for some high minded artisans and being kept away from the hoi polloi that you’ve been called out on in this very thread. The reality is that none of you managed to make anything that even resembles a materialist analysis, and you’re utterly unable to engage with people explaining to you the glaring problems in your argument. You just lash out as you’re doing here.

                  Calling LLMs a fascist slop machine is the very height of reaction.

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                    Lmaooo, discussion with you is impossible, because why bother engaging when you can just lie about what the other person said, right?

                    Where did I say that art is reserved for some high artisan class? It’s reserved for the masses, for everyone, that’s the entire point behind everyone being able to do it. A fascist slop machine is not art creation, it is relegating ones ability to connect with their fellow worker to a machine built by fascists and capitalists that seeks to establish a totemic cultural hegemony.

                    Imagine worshiping a capitalist machine.

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      19 days ago

      If you have a problem with the idea that you might have to have a conversation with the human that posted something in order to get arbitrary details, then I’m afraid you might be a slop consumer.