En julio de 2022 el entonces mandatario convocó a medio centenar de embajadores extranjeros en la residencia oficial de la presidencia para descalificar el sistema electoral.
Brazilian perspective here, I think this means very little. Bolsonaro himself has three sons that currently hold very prominent elected positions (Senator, city congressman and federal congressman) so we didn’t even get rid of a “Bolsonaro candidate” for the next election. Besides that, parties that aligned with him made huge gains in the previous election in the legislative and local executives and they could prop up yet another just like him. It’s worth noting that before the stabbening, Bolsonaro was mostly just considered an oddity with very little voting intention. He was never some great leader of his own fascist movement before, and there has been very little effort to actually curb the movement itself after the election. Considering that most people here have a level of distrust for the Brasilia institutions such as the Supreme Court regardless of political alignment, I don’t even think this one will finally be the one that will discredit him in the eyes of his followers.
Not only his sons, he also have other minions in very relevant executive positions like state governor that can, and probably will, be launched as candidates.
It’s worth noting that before the stabbening, Bolsonaro was mostly just considered an oddity with very little voting intention
It wasn’t that little, if I recall correctly, it was like 3%? It sure put him in the spotlight but he would have only grown anyways. IMO - the stab just sped up his victory by 1 or 2 terms.
I don’t even think this one will finally be the one that will discredit him in the eyes of his followers.
Its a cult by now, maybe it always was. Hardly anything would discredit him, they will milk their followers to the very end, either by gathering votes or pix’es lol
Not only his sons, he also have other minions in very relevant executive positions like state governor that can, and probably will, be launched as candidates.
Oh I only meant there that it’s very likely there’ll still be a candidate literally called “Bolsonaro” in the next election if the whole country survives that long.
It wasn’t that little, if I recall correctly, it was like 3%? It sure put him in the spotlight but he would have only grown anyways. IMO - the stab just sped up his victory by 1 or 2 terms.
It was actually more than that, but I wouldn’t be so deterministic on counterfactuals. The stab gave him an inordinate amount of free press and “underdog status” towards people who usually cared very little for politics. That coupled with the similarly timed discarding of Lula’s candidature made him basically the one candidate everybody actually knew something about. He might’ve remained the temporary leader of his movement but I’m not so certain his victory would be that inevitable if we had gotten more press on “who is Haddad?” rather than some make believe about Adélio Bispo (who is still locked up) being some prominent leftist. Facada mal-dada do caralho.
Its a cult by now, maybe it always was. Hardly anything would discredit him, they will milk their followers to the very end, either by gathering votes or pix’es lol
Yeah, but I see a lot of left-liberals claiming that “this time Bolsonaro will lose his followers” whenever the very government institutions he delegitimises condemn him and I was commenting about that one trend specifically. Convicting him will have even less of an effect than Lava-jato convicting Lula had for left-liberals, and we need to consider alternatives other than just begging the powers above fix this with their own fancy laws.
Brazilian perspective here, I think this means very little. Bolsonaro himself has three sons that currently hold very prominent elected positions (Senator, city congressman and federal congressman) so we didn’t even get rid of a “Bolsonaro candidate” for the next election. Besides that, parties that aligned with him made huge gains in the previous election in the legislative and local executives and they could prop up yet another just like him. It’s worth noting that before the stabbening, Bolsonaro was mostly just considered an oddity with very little voting intention. He was never some great leader of his own fascist movement before, and there has been very little effort to actually curb the movement itself after the election. Considering that most people here have a level of distrust for the Brasilia institutions such as the Supreme Court regardless of political alignment, I don’t even think this one will finally be the one that will discredit him in the eyes of his followers.
Not only his sons, he also have other minions in very relevant executive positions like state governor that can, and probably will, be launched as candidates.
It wasn’t that little, if I recall correctly, it was like 3%? It sure put him in the spotlight but he would have only grown anyways. IMO - the stab just sped up his victory by 1 or 2 terms.
Its a cult by now, maybe it always was. Hardly anything would discredit him, they will milk their followers to the very end, either by gathering votes or pix’es lol
Oh I only meant there that it’s very likely there’ll still be a candidate literally called “Bolsonaro” in the next election if the whole country survives that long.
It was actually more than that, but I wouldn’t be so deterministic on counterfactuals. The stab gave him an inordinate amount of free press and “underdog status” towards people who usually cared very little for politics. That coupled with the similarly timed discarding of Lula’s candidature made him basically the one candidate everybody actually knew something about. He might’ve remained the temporary leader of his movement but I’m not so certain his victory would be that inevitable if we had gotten more press on “who is Haddad?” rather than some make believe about Adélio Bispo (who is still locked up) being some prominent leftist. Facada mal-dada do caralho.
Yeah, but I see a lot of left-liberals claiming that “this time Bolsonaro will lose his followers” whenever the very government institutions he delegitimises condemn him and I was commenting about that one trend specifically. Convicting him will have even less of an effect than Lava-jato convicting Lula had for left-liberals, and we need to consider alternatives other than just begging the powers above fix this with their own fancy laws.