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    4 months ago

    Somehow they are even worse than Polish catholics who got to the absolute peak of nonsensical personality cult for pope John Paul 2, but only because he was a Pole (and most likely because CIA pumped millions in church propaganda) the next popes barely even elicit a reaction from them.

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        3 months ago

        I think he was just a very media savvy pope

        It was pure PR, guy himself didn’t had even a trace of any personality and expressed any signs of being human roughly once per 5 years. Though compared to a nazi mummy like Pius XII he was… actually also a nazi mummy but with good PR.

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          I remember there being a lot of spin about how him being friendly with prominent leaders in other religions meant he was this transformative pope bringing the church into the twentieth/twenty-first century.

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            Yes, but after two decades of this he issued proclamation “Dominus Iesus” where he basically said that only roman catholicism offer salvation and heretics and heathens go to hell, which is in line in him being ultraconservative hypocrite and his entire ecumenism was a PR stunt. Seriously it was such an enbarrasment that after initial confusion everyone including its nominal author (Ratzinger), current pope Francis and literally every other prominent religious figure on Earth (including even Patriarch of Moscow against whom it was mainly aimed) decided to just completely ignore and never speak about it despite it’s still valid declaration from infallibe pope precisely in the matters of faith.
            Except of that he was CIA pope heavy using church to destroy socialism everywhere he could especially in Poland, he also ordered to hide by all means necessary pedophile scandals in church, protecting the biggest pedo net in the history (Epstein was complete amateur in comparison, he just had richer clients). There were also multiple financial affairs in church with murders in background.
            And why i called him nazi? Well he beatified Alojzije Stepinać, a well known nazi so he must had liked what he stood for very much (Ustase, Stepinać stood for Ustase).

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              Seriously it was such an enbarrasment that after initial confusion everyone including its nominal author (Ratzinger), current pope Francis and literally every other prominent religious figure on Earth (including even Patriarch of Moscow against whom it was mainly aimed) decided to just completely ignore and never speak about it despite it’s still valid declaration from infallibe pope precisely in the matters of faith.

              I’ve got to imagine that’s happened semi-regularly throughout the history of the Catholic Church. Pope no one liked issued some crackpot decree, everyone just memoryholed it when they died instead of dealing with the thorny theological issue of nullifying it. Flash forward a few centuries, the only people aware of it are the most nerd Catholic scholars.

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                Yeah. There was many delusional, demented or senile popes through the ages. Vatican archives must have literal tons of such documents. But papal infallibility complicated the issue, and it’s a relatively new thing, only introduced in… 1870.