• freagle
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    5 months ago

    Molotov-Ribbentrop is a great example of liberals not being able to think for themselves. Hitler literally wrote in Mein Kampf that his goal was to destroy the communist movement, occupy Russia, and enslave the Slavs. It is literally impossible for the Soviets to believe they could form an alliance, which means your conclusion that Molotov-Ribbentrop constitutes meaningful collaboration is incorrect.

    If you study the history around it, the USSR wanted absolutely nothing to do with war after its revolution because it wanted to focus all of its efforts on building a new nation. The treaty was negotiated in attempt to delay armed conflict as much as possible and to take advantage of contradictions in capitalism/fascism to create that extra time.

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      5 months ago

      which means your conclusion that Molotov-Ribbentrop constitutes meaningful collaboration is incorrect.

      Enough to split up Poland tho haha

      Cope harder boy

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          5 months ago

          Now we are talking!

          Doesn’t execuse soviet behavior but some very valuable history that people should be aware of. Remember folks they did this back then and again in 2014 with Crimea.

          No wonder Putin thought of the west as a bunch of limp dick cucks. Took Germany well into 2023 to finally change its posture. Pathetic

          “Never gain” rheee

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            Doesn’t execuse soviet behavior but some very valuable history that people should be aware of.

            Yes which you fail to contextualize. The soviets failed to find allies against Hitler before the war, and saw their collaboration in the Munich agreement and the deal with Hitler being made at their expense instead. You bringing up M-R NON AGGRESSION pact as a form of collaboration and not as a stalling of the inevitable explanation of Hitler to the east is just cope

            Remember folks they did this back then and again in 2014 with Crimea.

            “Fellas did you know mordern Bourgeoise Russia is the same as the soviets??”

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                Poland bro… They invaded a country together and split up. I know a bad fact for your narrative but get real here.

                Two weeks after the Nazis invaded and the polish state dissolved already.

                goat fuckers

                Libs and being racist. Classic

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                    5 months ago

                    It’s funny that you should mention that, because the main reason that I educated others on the subject was that I saw a Polish anticommunist trivializing the Fascist occupation just to make the Communists look worse.

                    https://lemmy.ml/post/14133689

                    I have never seen any outspoken anticommunists make an effort to properly educate others on the Fascist occupation. You just mention the ‘splitting of Poland’ over and over again like that’s good in its own right and we’ll automatically download all of the details from that fact alone. This isn’t how education works.