People need to realize you can use alternatives

  • nephs
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    1 year ago

    I just don’t get why every other reasonably big alternative bans lemmygrad.

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      1 year ago

      Personally, I’d rather this not turn into another voat debacle. No offense. I’m on an instance that doesn’t block it by default, but I have blocked most of the major lemmygrad communities so they don’t pollute my all page.

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        1 year ago

        I’m not aware of the voat debacle, I just arrived in the fediverse. If you have any links for me I’ll be grateful.

        I think it’s fair to block stuff you don’t want to see. But to have every major player in Lemmy block it creates a divide based on… Nothing much?

        I am interested both in lemmygrad stuff, and mostly every other instance. This divide will only cause me to have to create at least 2 accounts, and artificially deflates lemmygrad just… Because people are red scared?

        That might me a fraction of the reason why lemmy.ml has the popularity it does.

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          I’m not aware of the voat debacle, I just arrived in the fediverse. If you have any links for me I’ll be grateful.

          I don’t have a links to share on the matter, but here’s my understanding of what happened…

          Some time ago, some users felt dissatisfied with Reddit and decided to make their own version, voat.co. It advocated for more freedom than Reddit, but the huge downside with this is that it attracted large swaths of right wing extremists, Nazis, racists, misogynists, and otherwise deplorable human beings, which made it a cesspool for human garbage…and not fun to browse for people just wanting to chill and have a good time. It eventually shut down, although supposedly the shut down was for lack of funding.

          I am very highly against groups that advocate for genocide and human rights oppression. Dangerous extremist groups like this poison everything they touch and I think it’s best that most people don’t associate with them…be they right wing fascists or left wing fascists.

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            Thank you very much!

            You forgot to mention center wing fascists. :D

            We don’t have to go much deeper into this, but I don’t think it’s possible to list many governments that did not commit genocide and human rights oppression.

            If you look closely at definitions of the words and ideas in political discussions, you will see that many of them are discussed in abstract, and that those abstract ideals benefit one tiny specific part of the population.

            Anyway, I’ll try not pollute this too much, but feel free to dm me to keep it up.

            Cheers, and thanks for the tale of voat!

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              We don’t have to go much deeper into this, but I don’t think it’s possible to list many governments that did not commit genocide and human rights oppression.

              Nor did I say that there was. But there’s a difference when you actively support when a government is committing human rights violations. Every government is flawed. Some are immensely more flawed than others. I can criticize my own government and at the same time recognize that it is far better than what is currently happening with the government of say, North Korea. It’s always important to criticize one’s own government to keep it from devolving into madness.

              Good luck out there in this crazy world we all live in.

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      1 year ago

      Redditors and their eternal addiction to echo chambers.

      Also Hexbear >

    • Preston Maness ☭
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      1 year ago

      I just don’t get why every other reasonably big alternative bans lemmygrad.

      Because the red scare never ended.