First of all, I just want this war to end. I don’t support Russia, or Ukraine. (this should not be that hot of a take but here we are) The whole sUpPoRt rUsSiA stuff is stupid, considering that Russia is yet another capitalist country that, while it is anti-USA, is just trying to be a competing bourgeois imperialist country. Russia is not “anti-imperialist”, Russia is just lesser imperialist. This is not “ultra-left”, this is the correct Marxist path. “Ultra-left” would be saying that China is capitalist. People who say that “Xi Jinping supports Russia because he talked with Putin” are also dumb because Xi Jinping talked with Zelenśkyj too, and he definitely does NOT support Ukraine. Also, there a bunch of Wagner supporters here, and do I even have to go into detail about why supporting LITERAL mercenaries is stupid? The only correct solution is to end the war immediately. Russia is not the 2nd coming of the USSR and is more akin to WW2 Britain than WW2 USSR. Putin is not another Stalin, Putin is Russian Churchill. This right-deviationist line here needs to end and Lemmygrad has to return to a principled Marxist line. Also, Pušilin is transphobic and has also given awards to literal Nazis, so supporting Pušilin over Zelenśkyj is just stupid. They both suck, and peace is the only way out.

  • @xenautika
    6•1 year ago

    I really appreciate this context comrade, and you’re correct absolutely.

    I think the reaction that we and I have here on lemmygrad is just seeing so many posts that revel in Ukronazis dying, glorifying the violence not having context or nuance like what you say, “based putin” and just making a sick joke out of it and punching down like liberals. It feels very western Marxist and it feels like it comes from the privilege of not ever having intense violence in one’s life, not ever losing a home and becoming un-housed. War is really fucked, like really fucked. It’s almost like people find it amusing or get joy from war here sometimes.

    I think it’s disingenuous to come at folks who are concerned, and may not understand the context as much as you and others, as denying critical support or being contrarian, or whatever is being said (my words not theirs), but then ignore the obvious jingoist tendencies that are being exhibited here.

    it’s right to criticize inaccurate statements like Russia is lesser imperialist, but for some reason the criticisms of the Putin fervor never come up, and are shamed if they do.