B+ on the base and superstructure part but I’m impressed. I’m sorry for raging you but it will at least our interaction will serve the cause of self improvement for us both. You seem to be confused by my use of the term street fight. I would consider anti-fascists brawling with the proud boys a street fight, yes. What would you call it? A tea party? This is what I meant, an actual street fight. I am being a tactless and rather blunt dick but I’m allowed, especially when someone comes at me acting like a rabid radlib despite not actually being one. I don’t have any interest in carrying an ounce of water for the democratic party’s culture propaganda, and whether you realize it or not you are doing so. The fact that violence is happening and needs to be defended against isn’t the problem, making the problems of the day end there is which is when it becomes a meaningless culture war against the fascists, something the 3 arrows crowd would be satisfied with, is. We all know who put them up to this, and why they listen to them, thus we know what is for us to do and what isn’t for us to do. Your arguments were filled with personal attacks, the enemy only raised to the fascists when that is never the end to the situation, and your splicing of popular liberal argumentative style of infusing outrage, expectations for your opponent, and over the top emotions are red flags to any leftist who has debated them which not only sets off a bad tone but most importantly doesn’t convince anyone of anything. The argument is authoritative and coercive instead of helpful and insightful. Do you see how you got stuck in a loop of specific histories of workers and the actions of the fascists from misunderstanding my argument, and can you imagine how it looked to me? Read back and see if you can understand what I’ve said. Even though it’s coming from a tactless dick, you should consider expanding your approach to debating such as reducing how much you rely upon emotions to drive you (you’ll end up missing things and it can lead you off on a tangent), and try to make your argument more based in your studies than identity. The liberals do that enough for us all.
You know what? You know what’s pretty interesting about the culture war thing?
This is anecdotal of me; but I have NEVER seen online commies tell right wingers to stop falling for the culture war nonsense and stop carrying water for the GOP and their overt white supremacist agenda.
Granted. I work for a living and when a coworker steps outta line and pops off with ridiculous right wing claims; I usually challenge it.
But I dont ever see online communists tell conservative workers to drop the culture war bullshit and focus on the contradictions of capital. As if… There’s something okay with having white supremacist and cultural reactionary tendencies.
It’s always the ones that have the violence happening to them and the allies of those people who have to “surrender the culture war” and be above it. To struggle to liberate the white worker AND tactically defend themselves from the terroristic outbursts from those ranks.
Where is the responsibility of the conservative to not be a republican tool and to drop their made up grievances and stop terrorizing non-cishet non white workers because fox news told them that the gays wanna diddle their kids?
You know… It’s a sussy lack of energy my guy. Im not accusing you of this. But it’s a pattern.
You’re continuing to think in the 2 party dynamic, as if there needs to be a disclosure every time of ‘fuck the other party also’. Western leftists don’t reject progressive social values, but we don’t lead with them either, that’s what the neoliberals in the democratic party do. If you’ve read as much as you ascertain then you know why we don’t bother trying to teach and improve MAGA (because it’s pointless, this is why we just attack them). You’re also entirely too concerned about identity politics and social issues, entirely missing the big picture of economics. If you’ve read what you have and you still are acting this way I have to ask what you do for a living for work?
B+ on the base and superstructure part but I’m impressed. I’m sorry for raging you but it will at least our interaction will serve the cause of self improvement for us both. You seem to be confused by my use of the term street fight. I would consider anti-fascists brawling with the proud boys a street fight, yes. What would you call it? A tea party? This is what I meant, an actual street fight. I am being a tactless and rather blunt dick but I’m allowed, especially when someone comes at me acting like a rabid radlib despite not actually being one. I don’t have any interest in carrying an ounce of water for the democratic party’s culture propaganda, and whether you realize it or not you are doing so. The fact that violence is happening and needs to be defended against isn’t the problem, making the problems of the day end there is which is when it becomes a meaningless culture war against the fascists, something the 3 arrows crowd would be satisfied with, is. We all know who put them up to this, and why they listen to them, thus we know what is for us to do and what isn’t for us to do. Your arguments were filled with personal attacks, the enemy only raised to the fascists when that is never the end to the situation, and your splicing of popular liberal argumentative style of infusing outrage, expectations for your opponent, and over the top emotions are red flags to any leftist who has debated them which not only sets off a bad tone but most importantly doesn’t convince anyone of anything. The argument is authoritative and coercive instead of helpful and insightful. Do you see how you got stuck in a loop of specific histories of workers and the actions of the fascists from misunderstanding my argument, and can you imagine how it looked to me? Read back and see if you can understand what I’ve said. Even though it’s coming from a tactless dick, you should consider expanding your approach to debating such as reducing how much you rely upon emotions to drive you (you’ll end up missing things and it can lead you off on a tangent), and try to make your argument more based in your studies than identity. The liberals do that enough for us all.
You know what? You know what’s pretty interesting about the culture war thing?
This is anecdotal of me; but I have NEVER seen online commies tell right wingers to stop falling for the culture war nonsense and stop carrying water for the GOP and their overt white supremacist agenda.
Granted. I work for a living and when a coworker steps outta line and pops off with ridiculous right wing claims; I usually challenge it.
But I dont ever see online communists tell conservative workers to drop the culture war bullshit and focus on the contradictions of capital. As if… There’s something okay with having white supremacist and cultural reactionary tendencies.
It’s always the ones that have the violence happening to them and the allies of those people who have to “surrender the culture war” and be above it. To struggle to liberate the white worker AND tactically defend themselves from the terroristic outbursts from those ranks.
Where is the responsibility of the conservative to not be a republican tool and to drop their made up grievances and stop terrorizing non-cishet non white workers because fox news told them that the gays wanna diddle their kids?
You know… It’s a sussy lack of energy my guy. Im not accusing you of this. But it’s a pattern.
You’re continuing to think in the 2 party dynamic, as if there needs to be a disclosure every time of ‘fuck the other party also’. Western leftists don’t reject progressive social values, but we don’t lead with them either, that’s what the neoliberals in the democratic party do. If you’ve read as much as you ascertain then you know why we don’t bother trying to teach and improve MAGA (because it’s pointless, this is why we just attack them). You’re also entirely too concerned about identity politics and social issues, entirely missing the big picture of economics. If you’ve read what you have and you still are acting this way I have to ask what you do for a living for work?
Maybe I just think you’re an asshole?
It could just be that. Just cause we agree on almost everything doesnt mean I am obligated to having a good impression of you?
Let’s put it like this. The nature of my work leaves me dirty and my body physically tired. I get my hands dirty plenty.
That’s fine. I get that but don’t forget to take a shower, I’m 98% sure that’s how we have big foot stories lol