• BZ 🇨🇦@lemm.ee
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      True, but I wanted to highlight that China isn’t “far ahead” of the pack, like the post suggested.

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        In terms of scale and absolute number they absolutely are though. Canada might produce more renewable energy per capita, but that’s more than offset by the sheer gluttony of energy consumption per capita. Also worth noting that much of Canadian renewable infrastructure, such as solar panels, was almost certainly produced in China.

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          No, that’s the point. In terms of scale, they are literally behind on this one factor.

          ** Edit to add: you have very valid points on the Canadians over-consuming

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            In terms of scale China absolutely dwarfs the entire west. There’s no comparison here.

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              Perhaps I’m misunderstanding what you mean by “in terms of scale”. Typically, that’s what we use “per capita” for, no?

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                  Ah, ok. But big heads-up, that’s not what “in terms of scale” means. You 're talking about total output.

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                    In terms of scale is generally used it to describe a comparison of something with regard to its size or magnitude. Perhaps you’re not familiar with this usage?

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          …and without making it compareable to other countries by “per capita” or “share of renewable in total energy production” the numbers mean nothing at all.

          Yes, they do shitton and yes they grow like mad in this field. But dont make yourself attackable by being sloppy with your arguments. Dont need to bend the numbers to make them look good.

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            I’m not being sloppy with my arguments at all. Here are the numbers for you to chew on:

            https://archive.ph/6K069

            Nov 28 (Reuters) - China is leading the global renewables market and is on track to reach a record-breaking 230 gigawatts (GW) of wind and solar installations this year, consultancy Wood Mackenzie said on Tuesday.

            China’s estimated installation is more than double the number of U.S. and Europe installations combined, Woodmac said in a report.

            China’s wind and solar project investment is expected to reach $140 billion for 2023, the report added.

            "While some other markets are moderating renewables targets, China has pushed up its 2025 wind and solar outlook by 43% or 380 GW in just a couple of years,” said Alex Whitworth, vice president of power and renewables research at Wood Mackenzie.

            The country’s share of coal in power generation has been continuously falling and about 80% of the reduction was replaced by renewables and the rest mostly by nuclear power, he added.

            China’s energy bureau said last week that total installed solar power capacity hit 536 (GW) in October, up 47% from a year earlier, with wind capacity also rising 15.6% to 404 GW.

            Earlier this month, Wood Mackenzie said China will have more than 80% of the world’s solar manufacturing capacity through 2026 and will be capable of satisfying annual global demand for much of the next decade.

            https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/climate-energy/china-lead-global-renewable-growth-with-record-installations-woodmac-2023-11-28/

            Finally, emissions in China have now entered structural decline.