• @redtea
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    11 year ago

    I agree with part of what you said but not all of it. I wonder if some Socratic questions would reveal how much we agree and perhaps make you change your mind.

    Do you mean that after a revolution a socialist state would still have to deal with gender, sexuality, racial, etc, issues? (I think this is what you meant,v as you give the example of China, and I agree.)

    If so, does it matter that a socialist state will still have to deal with class as well? China still had a bourgeoisie, for example, and has to reign it in now and again.

    To ask the question in a different way: can class and other ‘identity’ issues be separated just because those ‘identity’ issues will remain after a revolution, if class will also remain a problem after the revolution?

    During a dictatorship of the proletariat, there will still be a bourgeoisie, and the related problems of having a bourgeois class, even if it’s power is diminished. It would not be till much later, when bourgeois social relations have withered away, that class is abolished and ‘full’ communism reached.

    Would you expect those identity issues to have been dealt with by the time that full communism is reached?

    If so, is that not the exact time that class contradictions will be finally resolved?

    And to get back to where we started, does this indicate that ‘identity’ and class are interwoven after all and cannot be treated as separate issues?