• Salamander
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    52 years ago

    Yes, there were civilian infrastructure targets, probably used as fear mongering after the bombing of the bridge

    And this is absolutely unacceptable and reprehensible. It doesn’t matter if Russia does it, if Ukraine does it, if the US does it, if Israel does it, if Al-Qaeda does it, or if the unabomber does it. I don’t care about what the political or military goals are, or if this is done in retaliation to an attack. Any strategy that targets civilians is complete and utter bullshit.

    • Soviet Snake
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      82 years ago

      Okay, let’s start by punishing the wrong doers in chronological order then, the US is going to have a bad time with all the economic sanctions that will be applied to them for the tens of thousands of war crimes they have commited.

      • Salamander
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        32 years ago

        Applying economic sanctions will hurt the common people much more than those in power. Let’s imagine for a moment that you and I do have enough power to choose what happens. Why would we choose to harm the people who are virtually powerless, continuing the trend that those currently in power love to follow? Justice should be applied selectively and proportionally to the people in power that actively fuel and manage the conflict. Not to the people who happened to be born in a place and tried to live their lives.

        • Soviet Snake
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          82 years ago

          I agree, death penalty to the bourgeoisie sounds like a more charming alternative, the whole damn congress of the Usonian Empire is going to get wrecked, lol.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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      32 years ago

      The reality is that all wars end up hurting the civilian population. The only way to avoid that is to stop the wars. Unfortunately, the west is determined to fight this proxy war to the last Ukrainian, and Russia sees this war as existential.

      • Salamander
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        72 years ago

        I don’t disagree, but I stand by what I said. Targeting civilians is unacceptable, regardless of perceived or actual existential threats.

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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          52 years ago

          It is, but we live in a world where might makes right. Unless different countries learn to respect each others boundaries, and work towards solutions that are mutually beneficial, we’re doing to keep seeing more of this going forward.

          • Salamander
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            52 years ago

            Yes, and it is quite sad. The ability and will to exercise violence is one of the most fundamental forms of power. Hopefully we can solve this one day. Even the more elaborate attempts to do so today - such as nuclear deterrence - uses the threat of violence to prevent violence.

            • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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              32 years ago

              Yeah, completely agree. If we don’t destroy ourselves we need to find ways to work cooperatively instead of turning everything into a zero sum game.