The idea that the Palestinian people have only been able to persist because of their religion is ridiculous to me. They are resisting because colonialism, apartheid and genocide are very bad things to which nobody would want to be subjected, not because of Islam. If Palestinians were atheists, is he suggesting that they wouldn’t have the strength or the will to resist? Would their lack of a belief in the supernatural turn them into doormats for Isn’treal?

I like Hakim’s content, but his position on religion is quite frustrating. He is a Muslim first and a Marxist second. Also, Joram van Klaveren is still a right-winger.

  • Rania Rudhan 🇩🇿🏳️‍⚧️
    8•6 months ago

    Where in the Muslim holy texts is this stated?

    Quran [2:39], it also says it a few more times, but It’s about the afterlife, anyone who doesn’t believe in the afterlife and just believes a person lives in complete darkness also sees a shitty afterlife for believers of any religion, basically working your entire life just to be stuck in complete darkness and disappear, you can’t be neutral about the afterlife. it is something that shouldn’t matter for anyone who wants to stay out of idealism, what should matter to judge a religion or a school of thought is how it teaches to act towards anyone who’s not from it, and the Quran says in [60:7] [60:8] [60:9] what it says.

    Can you give some examples that weren’t more or less created by the West? I’m not aware of Libya having depraved social policies before the coup.

    Iran, the laws against women are real, but a lot of the laws were made up by the Iran, the example I can give instantly is that in Islam there is no law that punishes women for not wearing Hijab, while Iran law criminalizes it.

    • ☭ 𝗚𝗿𝗮𝗶𝗻𝗘𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗿 ☭A
      8•6 months ago

      thanks for the references; the first one is unfortunate, but you’re right that it’s ultimately inconsequential based on the latter three and similar surahs

      the Hijab requirement is certainly restrictive and should be abolished (at least from my perspective), but I wouldn’t consider it a depraved policy

    • QueerCommie
      5•6 months ago

      I wouldn’t describe atheist death as darkness and despair. It’s simply the absence of everything. There is nothing to perceive. As if you were never born. You’re right it doesn’t matter what religious people think happens to us after death.

      On the bad laws in Iran or other countries, that is in the context of colonialism and the coups of progressive governments.

      • Rania Rudhan 🇩🇿🏳️‍⚧️
        5•6 months ago

        I wouldn’t describe atheist death as darkness and despair. It’s simply the absence of everything. There is nothing to perceive.

        Sorry for my mistake.