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      2 years ago

      Imagine calling people who lived in a place 400-500 years colonizers. What is the threshold where a population becomes localized? I consider Palestinians indigenous to Palestine, even though they have not always lived there. If you do not think a population can become indigenized over hundreds of years, you will have a difficult time contending with Zionists who argue that Israelis are the original inhabitants of Palestine and that the land was taken from them, even as they displace people from the homes they have lived in for generations. How will you come to grips with the reality that 99.3% of the American population is non-native? Do you want all of these people to die?

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          2 years ago

          I read that book already. It’s just a bad book. Don’t assume I don’t understand things.

          The U$ is the product of horrific genocide. Literally a successful version of the third Reich.

          Ok, sure. But that doesn’t answer any of my questions. Since you want to draw comparisons to the Nazis, did the soviets scapegoat the German people in East Germany or did they suppress the Nazi ideology and liberate the people regardless of nationality?

          If i steal your car and give it to a friend, do you deserve your car back? What if it’s been a very long time?

          This is just a shitty moralism, not an objective analysis. All land is stolen if you want to go there. And in communism me and your friend will share the car. Just like the land will be shared. There are two worlds that are exposed to us. The world that is, and the world that should be. With enough effort, we can objectively make sense of the world that is.
          We can not objectively understand the world that should be, because there is a different version of that world for every person. But at the individual level, the fantasies we have play a small role in the real world.

          So let’s stick to the world that is and you can answer my questions from before.

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              2 years ago

              Please don’t equate U$ settler colonialism to any other country.

              Wait, are you saying the US is worse in this aspect? Cause you might want to look into the history of imperialism before making that claim. Human history is chock full of messed up shit.

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                  2 years ago

                  I already noticed it. Just because someone wrote a book doesn’t mean it’s true. The history of European colonialism is chock full of messed up shit. Muslims went on numerous conquests in the name of Allah. Genghis Khan alone killed innocents by the million. World history is full of humans being horrible to each other, and just because the US is currently the dominant power doesn’t erase that.

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              2 years ago

              Still can’t answer the question. But I’m the one who doesn’t understand settler-colonialism. Right.