Hello. Hopefully I won’t get banned for mentioning some stuff happening in China. From a western perspective, China seems perfect. There is a Communist Party in charge and the constitution says people have labor rights. But I want to examine some topics which make me very uncomfortable. For reference: Grew up in China 2002 to 2012, Moved to America, currently going through University in Americar, planning to go back to China immediately when I finish and restore People’s Republic citizenship. After living in the west for 10 years I am a hardcore communist. After I read the Little Red Book it was one of the most awesome things I ever read. I am grateful that the most populous country with such a huge territory and long history has a Communist government. Forgive me if I’m a bit on edge, the whole Nancy Pelosi Bullshit is making me very very stressed. If Americar and China are going to fight, at least do so after I escape Americar and go back to my family.

For those of you who doubt me: 如果你真的怀疑我是中国人,你觉得一个假中国人能写出这样的话吗?当然, 现代有谷歌翻译,但是毕竟谷歌翻译是机器,有时候还会不能完美地模仿人类的自然语言。全世界无产阶级人民团结!!!

Please please please don’t just see the epic People’s Liberation Army videos or the official news reportings, there is so much on bilibili and zhihu that a westerner wouldn’t know unless you are fluent in the language.

Tsinghua University Rainbow flags incident. Recently there has been an incident with Tsinghua University, one of the most prestigious higher education places in the coutnry. (the fact that this place is prestigious is problematic to me. Aren’t we communists supposed to, you know, ensure equality? I don’t think Westerners truly understand just how unequal education is in China. The quality of school facilities in rich and poor areas are just absolutely incomparable, and graduates of prestigious universities get much better jobs and much better income, which just isn’t fair. An engineering graduate is an engineering graduate, there shouldn’t be any differences in educational standards in different schools) A student left 10 little LBGT rainbow flags on a table, then was punished for it because the school says it is “宣传品“ which can be translated as propaganda OR informational materials. Not everything has to do with LGBT is about western infiltration you know. How can a student be punished for simply leaving 10 (TEN) rainbow flags? It’s a general symbol of Sexual and Gender Minorities. If there is proof of western infiltration, then yes, that is a problem. Right now I see very little Native Chinese activity in terms of LGBT. I agree the Chinese need our own LGBT awareness programs but it just isn’t happening. I don’t know why the central people’s government isn’t just coming out and saying people shouldn’t discriminate against LGBT. Even the word LGBT is western in origin, the Chinese need their own word for it. I think we should use 奻𤲶双跨. Each zi corresponds to each letter in LGBT. On Weibo微博 there were people arguing over this, in typical Chinese shitshow fashion. I heard enough of this in my childhood, my grandparents and my mother are all practitioners of the well-respected art of yelling. (Me too, although I tend to do more targeted insults, against homophobia, transphobia, corporate bootlicking, western bootlicking, religious persecution of others etc). There are very many extremely homophobic people on there saying that this is “western infiltration“ and that the students deserve even more punishment. Some say that Homosexuals should keep to themselves. The problem is, Homosexuals just aren’t seen in society, and if LGBT keep to themselves, how can they ensure that they are not discriminated against in terms of employment, education, and other opportunities? What about school bullying, domestic violence, suicides? How can Gay people even find love if they can’t even say “hey, we are gay?” There were nice people who argued FOR LBGT and insulted the homophobes, by saying that homophobes have no culture (没文化is a very common insult in China) and that although homopbobes say that homosexuals are diseased, the true disease are the homophobes themlseves. When I became a Communist in America, it’s precisely because they are simply the better side, the left supports LGBT, the right does not. I can’t deal with the fact that my home country, which should embrace Marxist Materialism according to its own ruling party, has so much homophobia. Western report: https://supchina.com/2022/07/27/the-rise-and-fall-of-lgbtq-student-groups-in-china/ Report in Chinese language (but not from China), it contains what looks to be official school documents for the students’ consequences. https://chinadigitaltimes.net/chinese/684454.html
I couldn’t find any official reportage of this Tsinhua University event, but I do see it being talked about on social media. https://weibo.com/3349258552/KnEhha2e7?refer_flag=1001030103_ Weibo post reporting the government shutting down multiple university LGBT organizations. The user is happy and calls LGBT dirty and disgusting. Some people cite Marx and Engels who were homophobic. I understand that Marx and Engels were from a very different era and I love them despite their homophobia. I know that if they were born in a different time they definitely wouldn’t be homophobes.

The other problem I want to discuss is 996. So…. How are we going to fight against it? Is the government making any progress? They condemned it in 2021. Are companies actually being forced to give their employees human hours? Are companies giving them a 40 hour workweek with 2 days off each week? It is an incredible shame that in a Leftst Red country this sort of exploitation exists. Keep in mind that I ain’t saying Americar is good. University prices are sky high and Americans will NEVER be able to retire OR get a house. The American government is controlled by money. But that doesn’t matter because China shouldn’t be comparing itself against America. China should be comparing itself against the metrics of Communism. I see some western tovarishi (comerades) say that 996 is only in Shanghai and Macau and HongKong. Not true. It is a phenomenon all over. Some western comrades say that this is only the tech industry. Not true. I look on the Chinese internet and it seems to me 996 is a very widespread phenomenon across multiple sectors in multiple places. It is an unmentionable shame that a thousands years old culture which values FAMILY above all gives people 0 (ZERO) time to be with their family. This is not even mentioning the nongmingong (workers who have rural hukou/registration but who go to work in cities) who cannot buy houses in cities for some reason, they live in shitty accomodations and can only see their families for 15 days in Chinese New Near. Paid time off and vacations don’t exist in Chinese culture. Your boss and coworkers WILL call you and expect you to answer, IF you somehow manage to convince your superiors that you deserve a break. And the Hierarchical culture… Is absolutely disgusting. Higher ups will lord it over you like some feudal official. We are 共产主义者for fucks sake we should be equal. Now I admit I spent half of my life in America so I haven’t experienced things personally but I follow Chinese social media quite closely. It really is that bad. And before you accuse me of being a western spy or a Eff Bee Eye, first see if you can read this. If you can’t, then you should probably consider the fact that this is MY culture not yours… 中华文化是我的文化。我有资格去评价当前的中国人的网上谈论。 The Law has been against 996 exploitation for a VERY long time. But why has the government taken so long to act? Are their policies effective? You can’t just say you’re against something and not use all available force to punish these bad things. Americar makes laws and doesn’t enforce them, I don’t want China to become like America.

Another worrying phenomenon is a new way of looking at history. Confucious, a misogynistic monarchist who puts book-men(who do ceremonies or something) over farm laborers (who provide food) is rehabilitated by the Party. In Official documentaries about history, I see Emperors being praised. This is very dangerous because I can’t see myself loving these dudes who lived in palaces and had 100s of women to play with while their subjects labored in the fields. I see so much traditionalism in Chinese media and not enough revolutionary culture. Why? Please just why? The Great Helmsman (Mao) spent so much time fighting against feudal society. And in recent years, xenophobia is on the rise in Chinese online discours. Everything Chinese is good and Foreign things are bad. If China needs something, it has to be Chinese. LGBT is from the west therefore it is bad. Why would one listen to music from the West if one has good Chinese music to listen to? Westerners don’t beat their children, so we Chinese do. It’s only natural. Everything has to be Chinese nowadays. Where does cultural confidence end and chauvinism begin? I agree every single damn country needs cultural confidence. Look at the rise of the Right in Germany. If you’re not gonna teach to the young Deutschen good Deutsche Kultur, they will fall to Right Wing German culture, the bad part of Deutscher Kultur. And before you accuse me of being a western spy or a Eff Bee Eye, first see if you can read this. If you can’t, then you should probably consider the fact that this is MY culture not yours… 中华文化是我的文化。我有资格去评价当前的中国人的网上谈论。

Please please please don’t just see the epic People’s Liberation Army videos or the official news reportings, there is so much on bilibili and zhihu that a westerner wouldn’t know unless you are fluent in the language.

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    I’m in a similar position, let me just summarize a few thing I concluded.

    1. There’s a big difference between the Communist Party of China’s policies and what your “average” Chinese think it’s right, and despite what west keep saying, CPC is actually way too laxed on some aspect of control. Your average person wouldn’t bother to understand theories and would only understand their own living conditions, which is fine since that’s one of the main aspects of Communism, but they have no ways of really understand how to achieve said prosperity. There are decent amount of degenerates and Nazbols in China as well, but long as they don’t cross the line CPC leave them be. Having the system be on the right side of history is what matters.
    2. For your second point about “prestige” school it actually has been a talking point since the Deng era reforms, the school, while prestigious, isn’t state owned, again long as they don’t break any laws CPC won’t crack down on it. As for wether you think the Deng era reforms are right, well I’m pretty sure most of the people on this site agrees with it and I won’t post an essay on wether I think it’s right you would have to do your own research.
    3. Chinese right wing nationalists wants everything none Chinese out of the country. National extremists are right wing no matter what, doesn’t matter if they come from a left wing country or support a left wing government, CPC doesn’t support their idea, they are openly enacting policies that benefits everyone not just themselves at the expenses of others like right wings governments.

    In conclusion, it literally matters not at all at what some incel online says or does, long as CPC is on the right track I support China, and in the unlikely event that China is no longer run by CPC then I would have zero attachment to that country and it’s people.

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      It also seemed like you been ingesting way too much western propaganda, Confucius famously flamed a mysognist for looking down on his wife, and that quote has been misused by liberals to portrait him as one. Most sane people don’t look up to emperors and actively realize feudalism was shit for everyone except the rich, unfortunately for whatever reason liberals fucking love them. Essentially if you are talking to a Lib assume them as the worse pieces of shit second only to fascist because they are.

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      996 it’s already illegal, this is a more complicated issue, while I really don’t like to blame the people instead of the system, this problem has been exacerbated by the fact that there’s just so many competition, CPC actively cracked down on Jack ma for trying to implement 996 and fined him, which is good, but it’s impossible to stop hundreds of thousands of small businesses doing the same because no body is reporting them. Like I said before most Chinese are actually communist only in name, they only claim to be because CPC raised their living conditions, they in the long term mostly contributs to the problems CPC is trying to solve.

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      But the party doesn’t seem to be making ANY progress in regards to 996. Chinese people work some of the most hours in the world, but they don’t have to, because the company profits are going to the bosses and corrupt party members/ganbu who use that money to go out removed and drinking.

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        How exactly did you know or who exactly is telling you they are not? They went from criminalizing it to actively cracking down on it to fineing and banning large corporations who practice it, it’s rampant in middleing and small businesses but again that is a complicated issues that’s caused by the sheer amount of competition due to the population, how do you effectively deal with that? Go full Nazi and do population control?

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          Have you heard of any progress on eliminating 996? I can’t find any information about actual progress on elimiating 996. Seems like the government just said it.

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          I wish… They said they did, but you can’t just cite a law paragraph and be done with it. That’s what americar does. I haven’t heard of any progress on eliminating 996…

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        Chinese people also work some of the most hours in the West

        Not everything bad is because of the state. Not everything is related to capitalism or communism

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          But Chinese people in China have no choice but to work 996. If they slack off they might get fired or replaced.

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            I’m sure you’ve read my other long comment. My point was that it seems very difficult to solve since it is partly a cultural issue as well (competition and hard working)

            You seem to be really great at complaining about things without offering any realistic alternatives/solutions. That makes all your thoughts and opinions completely useless

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                I’m not sure what advanced and helpful worker culture means exactly but I do know studying and working hard has been part of Chinese culture for centuries due to Confucius(?) influence

                You only need to look at Chinese railway workers in North America to see that Chinese people are even willing to work their ass off even for very near slavery conditions and before communism/under capitalism

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              You seem to be really great at complaining about things without offering any realistic alternatives/solutions

              Well yeah I’m not the fucking government. They should be the ones solving problems. They are responsible for that.

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                lmao. what an entitled whiny little brat. can’t even offer a viable theoretical solution for others that are actually doing the hard work. if you are really a communist and not a liberal trolling, you have to be one of the most pathetic ones I’ve talked to

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                  Clearly you are superior to me in your understanding of Marxis, so I would like to hear your solutions.