Well hold on for a moment - The current ruling party is making calls to revise the constitution and remove that part. So they don’t want to take over mainland China. If that idea is shared with the majority of the Taiwanese, and if the majority of the Taiwanese want independence, what’s wrong with a referendum?
This is just the Western empire’s hypocracy in action. “REEE evil China is evil because they don’t want Taiwan to have am independence referendum!!! But also no we don’t recognise the referendums held in Crimea, Donetsk People’s Republic, Luhansk People’s Republic, and Catalonia because we don’t like their results!!”
Mate I think your browser is glitched out, it seems you were only able to read half the words in my post.
I’ll try reposting them for clarity:
China and Taiwan should work together with the international community - bringing in as many states as possible - to hold a referendum on whether the people in Taiwan want independence
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Bring in international observers along with allies of both China and Taiwan to come up with a straight-forward, non-rigged referendum. If you think Crimea had a legitimate referendum, where there was no clear option on remaining part of Ukraine, then we’ve got other problems to sort out.
Those first three referendums were held by an occupying force. Catalonia I won’t defend, though honestly I think it’s kind of silly on both sides.
Also, Taiwan has never been held by the CCP in the 70 years since the Chinese Civil War ended. China has no right to demand at gunpoint that it not declare independence.
One, no they weren’t? In all three cases the referendums preceeded military action by Russia. Two, you assume that Taiwan’s referendum will be fair just because it’s not from the PRC? Three, why the fuck is Catalonia independence silly again? Is it because Spain controlling them is a status quo that is convenient for you?
CCP
Lol, if you don’t even know what the “evil commie party” you hate so much is actually named, why should I believe anything else you say?
Three, why the fuck is Catalonia independence silly again? Is it because Spain controlling them is a status quo that is convenient for you?
It seems like both sides are being silly. The government is being petty and should just back off. For Catalonia part, independence wouldn’t be vastly different than the status quo, unlike with Taiwan.
Lol, if you don’t even know what the “evil commie party” you hate so much is actually named, why should I believe anything else you say?
Chinese Communist Party? It’s commonly identified as such.
Again, if you haven’t done enough research to know that the official English name is Communist Party of China, that they themselves have never referred to themselves as CCP and has always used the acronym CPC, it casts serious doubt on what else you know about them, and makes me think you’re just regurgitating what you read on random Reddit threads. Or, if you know that’s the wrong name and just don’t care, I’m gonna assume you similarly don’t care about how factually correct the rest of your arguments are.
It’s not pedentry. It’s the fact that if you’re not even willing to use the official names for stuff after being told, you’re clearly not willing to have a good faith argument because you’re willing to change nothing about your own worldview. Calling something by the correct name, which can be proven beyond doubt, is the simplest thing to do and doesn’t even require you to change your opinions on that entity, and you’re not even willing to concede that, so clearly you’re not willing to ever change any opinions that matter.
If you went to a proctologist and he kept using the word “asshole” instead of the technical term “anus”, even after being told what the technical term is, how confident would you be in his actual medical skills? Or if you’re biologically female, if a gynaecologist kept saying “pussy” instead of “vagina”. All those terms are commonly used by English speakers, right? Or, if a med student refuses to even use the right name for the organ they’re studying, what are the chances that they also won’t properly how it works? You’d think a med school prof is pedentic when they have the previous line of thought?
Well hold on for a moment - The current ruling party is making calls to revise the constitution and remove that part. So they don’t want to take over mainland China. If that idea is shared with the majority of the Taiwanese, and if the majority of the Taiwanese want independence, what’s wrong with a referendum?
This is just the Western empire’s hypocracy in action. “REEE evil China is evil because they don’t want Taiwan to have am independence referendum!!! But also no we don’t recognise the referendums held in Crimea, Donetsk People’s Republic, Luhansk People’s Republic, and Catalonia because we don’t like their results!!”
Mate I think your browser is glitched out, it seems you were only able to read half the words in my post.
I’ll try reposting them for clarity:
A second set of words in case your browser can’t see quoted text:
Bring in international observers along with allies of both China and Taiwan to come up with a straight-forward, non-rigged referendum. If you think Crimea had a legitimate referendum, where there was no clear option on remaining part of Ukraine, then we’ve got other problems to sort out.
Those first three referendums were held by an occupying force. Catalonia I won’t defend, though honestly I think it’s kind of silly on both sides.
Also, Taiwan has never been held by the CCP in the 70 years since the Chinese Civil War ended. China has no right to demand at gunpoint that it not declare independence.
One, no they weren’t? In all three cases the referendums preceeded military action by Russia. Two, you assume that Taiwan’s referendum will be fair just because it’s not from the PRC? Three, why the fuck is Catalonia independence silly again? Is it because Spain controlling them is a status quo that is convenient for you?
Lol, if you don’t even know what the “evil commie party” you hate so much is actually named, why should I believe anything else you say?
It seems like both sides are being silly. The government is being petty and should just back off. For Catalonia part, independence wouldn’t be vastly different than the status quo, unlike with Taiwan.
Chinese Communist Party? It’s commonly identified as such.
Again, if you haven’t done enough research to know that the official English name is Communist Party of China, that they themselves have never referred to themselves as CCP and has always used the acronym CPC, it casts serious doubt on what else you know about them, and makes me think you’re just regurgitating what you read on random Reddit threads. Or, if you know that’s the wrong name and just don’t care, I’m gonna assume you similarly don’t care about how factually correct the rest of your arguments are.
Regardless of the official translation, both CCP and CPC are commonly used by English speakers. Please don’t be pedantic.
It’s not pedentry. It’s the fact that if you’re not even willing to use the official names for stuff after being told, you’re clearly not willing to have a good faith argument because you’re willing to change nothing about your own worldview. Calling something by the correct name, which can be proven beyond doubt, is the simplest thing to do and doesn’t even require you to change your opinions on that entity, and you’re not even willing to concede that, so clearly you’re not willing to ever change any opinions that matter.
If you went to a proctologist and he kept using the word “asshole” instead of the technical term “anus”, even after being told what the technical term is, how confident would you be in his actual medical skills? Or if you’re biologically female, if a gynaecologist kept saying “pussy” instead of “vagina”. All those terms are commonly used by English speakers, right? Or, if a med student refuses to even use the right name for the organ they’re studying, what are the chances that they also won’t properly how it works? You’d think a med school prof is pedentic when they have the previous line of thought?