• 🏳️‍⚧️Edward [it/its]
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    10 months ago

    aggressive payment program

    I don’t know much about them, but in what way are they aggressive?

    Or that they don’t really care if they get the money back

    To some extent, yes.

    The second problem with the narrative is that it relies on the assumption that it is Chinese policy to advance predatory loans with onerous terms and conditions to ensnare countries into debt. In reality, China often advances loans at fairly low interest rates, and is often willing to restructure the terms of existing loans to be more favorable to the borrowing country, or even forgive loans altogether. In fact, in August of 2022, the Chinese government announced it was forgiving 23 interest-free loans in 17 African countries. Prior to that, between 2000 and 2019, China had also restructured a total of $15 billion of debt and forgiven $3.4 billion in loans they had given to African countries.

    https://www.liberationnews.org/why-chinese-debt-trap-diplomacy-is-a-lie/

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      don’t know much about them, but in what way are they aggressive?

      It’s hard to be exact, as I have said they tend to keep the details pretty close to their chest. But the oddest thing I have seen is several countries defaulting within just a few years of them being written.

      Usually if you weren’t being aggressive with your terms , there would be a windfall period of low to no interest payments before you would start collecting. This gives the borrower some time to recoup their investment before having to make payments.

      I have also seen claims, (with no real evidence) that in the terms of the loan is a clause that forces the borrower to create an escrow account that pays the loan in advance of other responsibilities. But as I said, those claims didn’t really back it up with a lot evidence.

      China often advances loans at fairly low interest rates, and is often willing to restructure the terms of existing loans to be more favorable to the borrowing country, or even forgive loans altogether. In fact, in August of 2022, the Chinese government announced it was forgiving 23 interest-free loans in 17 African countries. Prior to that, between 2000 and 2019, China had also restructured a total of $15 billion of debt and forgiven $3.4 billion in loans they had given to African countries.

      I think this article is conflating ifl loans with commercial and policy bank loans. IFL loans are small interest free loans that china typically allocates to developing nations for specific state works. They’re kinda a small grant that china utilizes to spread influence and open doors in the southern hemisphere.

      Unfortunately ifl loans only account for about 1% of the total 159 billion in loans given to Africa from 2010-2020. And the actual loan forgiveness for African IFL programs has only been estimated to be worth between 132-402 million dollars.

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        10 months ago

        I have also seen claims, (with no real evidence) that in the terms of the loan is a clause that forces the borrower to create an escrow account that pays the loan in advance of other responsibilities. But as I said, those claims didn’t really back it up with a lot evidence

        The liberationnews article did contain this:

        But according to analysis by AidData, who obtained a copy of the contract, the airport was not even a source of collateral that the lender could seize in the first place! What the conditions of the agreement did require was that cash collateral be placed in a separate escrow account which could then be seized in the event of default — a fairly standard clause for international projects financing

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          But according to analysis by AidData, who obtained a copy of the contract, the airport was not even a source of collateral that the lender could seize in the first place! What the conditions of the agreement did require was that cash collateral be placed in a separate escrow account which could then be seized in the event of default — a fairly standard clause for international projects financing

          Minus the misinformation about them supposedly wanting to seize the airport, that’s fairly close to what I have read in the past about the escrow account. Though I wouldn’t say that it’s fairly standard.

          It can be a normal part of thing like IMF loans or aid packages, however they are usually set up in conjunction with the borrowers other lenders. Very rarely are they made in secret or behind closed doors, as the escrow accounts are usually made to assure other borrowers that the new lender is a part of the payment program, and not restructuring the payment program in their favour.

          And again this is all fairly speculative, the last time I read an article that includes info on the escrow account it was from AP who also claimed they had a copy. However, I haven’t seen anyone actually publish it which makes me pretty skeptical.