If there's one place you don't want to be caught wandering around right now, it's the demilitarized zone that separates North and South Korea. Especially since South Korean military hardware manufacturer DoDAMM used the recent Korea Robot World 2010 expo to display its new Super aEgis 2, an…
Tangential question. What do Americans think of their soldiers being in Korea and Vietnam? Does it strike as odd to the median American? These two countries posed no direct threat to the USA.
Americans and think don’t go well in the same sentence. We tend to only think of the world as America, and everywhere else. I still catch myself doing it sometimes, America is a hell of a drug.
I do the same shit with Canadians about us having soldiers in Saudi Arabia, Africa, etc. They don’t care and seek to justify it totally and immediately.
I actually was in Canada for a bit and the impression that I got was that of a sense of banality where people did not know how buddy-buddy Canada has been with the US.
I was not “political” at that point. But the people I knew used to believe that Canada was similar to the US but with the “derangement” separated from the substance.
Canada is just the USA with a roughly 10 year policy lag and none of the global geopolitical power. Most Canadians see this and develop a superiority complex. They think “at least it’s not as bad up here” or “at least we’re not as brutal as them”. Class consciousness and worker solidarity is basically non-existent. We’re truly a puppet state.
By the end of Vietnam most Americans were solidly against it, and I believe “Vietnam was a mistake” has broadly been the belief since then, but mostly because it got American soldiers killed, not because of the horrors they committed.
People opposed the draft. Vietnam itself didn’t see much more opposition than any other conflict America decided to stick its nose into, they just didn’t like the idea that they or their family members might be expected to go fight in it
Vietnam itself didn’t see much more opposition than any other conflict America decided to stick its nose into
except by the conscripts, who first made the ground war untenable by organizing and direct action and then made the air war untenable by organizing and direct action
Tangential question. What do Americans think of their soldiers being in Korea and Vietnam? Does it strike as odd to the median American? These two countries posed no direct threat to the USA.
they don’t, it’s completely left out of most American education. if it’s there it is a brief one-sentence mention
Americans and think don’t go well in the same sentence. We tend to only think of the world as America, and everywhere else. I still catch myself doing it sometimes, America is a hell of a drug.
I do the same shit with Canadians about us having soldiers in Saudi Arabia, Africa, etc. They don’t care and seek to justify it totally and immediately.
I actually was in Canada for a bit and the impression that I got was that of a sense of banality where people did not know how buddy-buddy Canada has been with the US.
I was not “political” at that point. But the people I knew used to believe that Canada was similar to the US but with the “derangement” separated from the substance.
Yeah, you got it 100%.
Canada is just the USA with a roughly 10 year policy lag and none of the global geopolitical power. Most Canadians see this and develop a superiority complex. They think “at least it’s not as bad up here” or “at least we’re not as brutal as them”. Class consciousness and worker solidarity is basically non-existent. We’re truly a puppet state.
By God are we working hard to close that gap
By the end of Vietnam most Americans were solidly against it, and I believe “Vietnam was a mistake” has broadly been the belief since then, but mostly because it got American soldiers killed, not because of the horrors they committed.
People opposed the draft. Vietnam itself didn’t see much more opposition than any other conflict America decided to stick its nose into, they just didn’t like the idea that they or their family members might be expected to go fight in it
except by the conscripts, who first made the ground war untenable by organizing and direct action and then made the air war untenable by organizing and direct action
I think the Viet Cong and the NVA had something to do with that as well. But sure, I was speaking about stateside though
1) The median American’s default is simply 🇺🇸 👍
2) The (bipartisan!) think tank version is: the U.S. is the world’s police and that’s a Good Thing because we have Good Intentions (™, ™)
3) For the most part, the question is not asked outside of explicitly leftist circles