I still believe in the idea that the CIA or factions within the bourgeoisie assassinated JFK. It doesn’t matter that JFK was a war criminal who was just as bad as most other Presidents in the United States history. What matters is that his death to this day just comes off as incredibly suspicious and the fact that he wanted to get rid of the CIA just makes me… not really trust the official narrative. I mean, the narrative painting the man who did initially as a communist just seems too convenient…

I’m sorry, I know how I sound, but I used to grow up with 9/11 conspiracy theories as well. In many ways, it made me anti-imperialist, but it certainly did give rise in me to certain suspicious about the US government as well. I know that I shouldn’t be thinking like this, but honestly? I don’t know. And perhaps none of us will know for sure. But I can’t help but get the feeling that the bourgeoisie would easily cannibalize their own.

The US would never kill its own head of state? They’re easily replaceable, don’t have complete control of the federal government, and besides, kings were assassinated by nobles way back when for much less.

Honestly, I get how I sound, and maybe it’s my extreme case of OCD, but I just grew up with this as a fact. Maybe I need to rethink all this.

I’m sorry, comrades, but this is kinda hard for me.

(Also, this is a reply to the previous thread about this topic).

  • @some_random_commie
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    14 years ago

    JFK wanting to do away with the CIA because they had too much power

    There was a quote about Kennedy allegedly wanting to do this that was popularized a few years ago by Wikileaks, as they made it a password to some file they were spreading on the internet. The quote is completely fictitious, of course, first appearing in print 3 years after Kennedy was dead, and (allegedly) given by an unnamed official at that.

    Perhaps you should consider why you think it is a legitimate practice to do history by way of anonymous quotations from dead people who can’t confirm or deny what people claim they told them in private. What makes this stuff believable to you? So the CIA got wind (somehow) that Kennedy didn’t care for them, and they immediately plotted his murder? So why didn’t they kill everyone involved in the Church Commission a decade later?

    Notice also how the motive changes from conspiracy to conspiracy. Is it because he failed to give air support to gusanos in Cuba, was going to withdraw the troops from Vietnam, or because he was going to get rid of the CIA? Whatever the motive, Kennedy happened to tell someone about it, and then years later someone tells someone else. Charles Bartlett first put his own anti-war-hero-Jesus Kennedy quote to print in 1985, over two decades after the fact. You know, when the JFK conspiracy theory was already believed by the vast majority of “American” society, like it is today, and no one would bother trying to call him out on it.

    • Makan ☭ CPUSAOP
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      14 years ago

      The CIA came up with the term “conspiracy theorist” in order to discredit people that believed in stuff like JFK conspiracy theories. And either way, the death was pretty suspicious and couldn’t have been done by some random communist. I’d rather trust that unnamed source than the official narrative.

      • @some_random_commie
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        24 years ago

        couldn’t have been done by some random communist

        This is one of the purposes of the lie; not only to paper-over the differences between liberalism and Marxism, but to imply the US government is some sort of omnipotent entity that couldn’t be shook to the core by the actions of a single individual. Can’t have people getting the idea that they too could change the course of history, if they are just willing to pick up a gun and fight!

        I’d rather trust that unnamed source than the official narrative.

        The “American” government has no qualms peddling bullshit themselves to gullible people; just look at the QAnon stuff.

        • Makan ☭ CPUSAOP
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          14 years ago

          The QAnon stuff is a psy-op and Lee Harvey Oswald was not a communist; besides, his connections to the CIA are sus to me, tbh.