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Cake day: March 3rd, 2022

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  • Just because they are worth less than a human doesn’t mean you are free to inflict pain and suffering upon them. I’m vegan and i see animals as below me, i’d kill an animal if it means saving a human life. However that alone doesn’t justify paying for them to be abused, raped, and have their throats slit for 15 minutes of taste pleasure when i can just eat something else instead.

    The line is to not hurt animals unless you have a reason to.




  • Why not engage with the rest of my argument ? What’s so different between raping a human and an animal ? Shouldn’t we know better than trying to argue that raping animals regularly is good so long as we can profit from their bodily fluids ? Are you okay with your daily choices leading up to cows being raped, by your own admission, every two or three months, giving birth, getting their calves taken away, spending their life in pain due to the enormous milk production, and dying an early death ? I’m not okay with it, so i don’t partake in it and just buy oatmilk instead lmao.



  • If there wasn’t any dairy production, the male calves wouldn’t be born only to die soon after. There wouldn’t be these genetically engineered cows who spend their lives in pain due to milk overproduction. “They wait 50 to 80 days” wow great! Let me put it this way:

    I keep a woman in my basement, she is well fed, well cared for, she has a roof over her head. I rape her every 10 months (but actually i might give her a couple additionals months to recover- I’m not a monster) and once she gives birth, if it’s a male, i wait a couple months and kill him, if it’s a girl, well there’s my next resource just waiting to be used. I steal her breast milk and sell it for profit. What a kind and upstanding guy i must be. Hey, her and her children were bred for that purpose, no harm done.

    If you don’t like that example, just substitute it for a dog or whatever animal you typically care more about than a cow. The point is that it’s inhumane, it’s not necessary, it’s only to fulfill a selfish want from humans who can very well live without milk, without dairy. For fuck’s sake most people are some degree of lactose intolerant.

    I maintain my point, they should not even be bred in the first place, the solution is as simple as this: as the number of vegans increases, supply slowly dwindles and less and less of them will be born, until eventually none are left. The same apply for the chicken, why would you consciously breed them continuously into an existence where you know they will live shorter and more painful lives due to what we have bred them into ?

    It’s not even a “capitalism” only thing. Yes it’s aggravated by it, but the very exploitation is the problem. Unless in your mind, a communist utopia includes everyone being vegan. I don’t think any country aiming for communism has that very high on their checklist.


  • Do you know what happens to male calves in the dairy industry? Hint: they are unnecessary for dairy farmers. The cows spend their whole lifes artificially inseminated, another word for that is “rape”. Get pregnant over and over, get your calves taken away to be either killed or raised the way their mothers will. All to be sent off to slaughter once milk production slows down. Usually at about 3-5 years old if my memory serves me correctly.

    Not to be too judgemental, and i understand this is how my post comes off anyway, but you are still directly responsible for this. Cows were never meant to produce 10L of milk a day for their calves, so much that they’re in pain if not constantly milked.

    Far from anything close to ethical. Same goes for chickens and their eggs.





  • I agree that it can be a bit of both sides here, however what are the practical ways to prevent that? If you give your kid an hour of iPad time a day or whatever, are you going to stand over their shoulder the whole time? Maybe you have the technical expertise to block certain websites on a case by case basis on your router, but that’s not most people. Even then, as soon as they’re not on your home network anymore, it’s free game. Again, I’m not saying the proposed french way is perfect, or even good, i’m conflicted.








  • The French government’s drive to prevent children from accessing pornographic content online is well-documented. Few disagree that widely available and openly accessible ‘tube’ sites are unsuitable for minors, but in a world where parental responsibility is considered old-fashioned, not to mention ineffective, France believes that legislation is the only way to protect the country’s children.

    Don’t know how to feel about this. On one hand, it’s for a good cause, exposure to porn at a young age can have some pretty devastating consequences later on. The way they’re going about it though, that doesn’t sound too good.