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  • @Ephera @JoeBidet This is very interesting: my reading contained none of those you listed, and in fact reading them seems very absurd and artificial.

    - the image is based on noticing these people’s skin color in the first place, and making a joke out of them;

    To me it was a joke about the skin colors, not about the people.

    - the analogy with the Rubik’s Cube means that there is something to “solve” there;

    I can’t even…

    - the last click in the Rubik’s Cube is a “perfect” state.

    Yes, matching the patterns. I can’t even see how it isn’t obvious, like looking at a two triangles, cubes and rabbits and seeing matching rabbit-to-rabbit and triangle-to-triangle as “perfect state”.

    But maybe the solution is simpler: you don’t understand jokes. 😀

    You seem to try to “explain” it and see “hidden content” in it, while it is, simply, a joke. With no such hidden or elusive meanings. Triangle-to-triangle, and recognising that every kind has its pair and it is “almost” “perfectly matched”. That was a joke, and this all debate feels like when I was in school and the literature teacher wanted us to tell him that the poet wanted to say with the poem what he say he wanted. And I never have accepted that, and once I told him absolutely different things, and he got very angry and wanted to give me an “F” (or number 1 here around) and I told him (quite impolitely) that if he does that I will go to the director and request that he PROVE that the poet wanted to say THAT with the poem. I got nothing, was sent back to sit down (and I wasn’t his favourite pupil anyway).

    I born to be Politically Incorrect. And I still believe I’m a good person. 😉 Just really really hard to handle. :-]


  • @JoeBidet > discrimination doesnt start with “suggesting bad things about a group of people”, it starts by creating such a group of people,

    You already said you’re aware that the human mind (and in fact every mind on Earth) works by grouping and comparing, so your expectations are unrealistic.

    For example you seem to be in the group of US people, also in the group of social justice warriors, also in men group, also in the group who uses alternative means for communication, also in various other groups (including the one containing persons who actually able to think and formulate good arguments). So am I a racist just because I form groups and collected you into them? I have various prejudices about these groups but I do not have hate, nor (significant 😉) superiority feeling.

    You can’t have no groups. We call that what you’re doing “pissing against the wind”, and you know the result: you will change nothing but wetting yourself.


  • @Ephera > The definition of “racist” can be that racists believe in humanity consisting out of different races.

    Yet even you don’t think along these lines: the original post have neither stated nor implied anything about “races”. You have seen pattern and thought about races, then shamed yourself and started to project your prejudices to others, and then shame them. But these are your thoughts: a lot of people [those who are not racist in the meaning of the word I believe in] do not think about “races” when talk about black, redhead, yellow, short, whatever people, they usually mean just that: different looking people.

    There are very few real “racist” jokes; those you mean usually aren’t in the general (non United States artificial PC-speech) sense.

    What I said is: if you believe there are no races then you must not think of those races when seeing posts. And if the post states something about races then you do not need your imagination.

    > But we all have racism in our head.

    No, that is not true. We all have both associative and grouping/separation logic, that is right, but it does not imply malevolence. Racism requires hate and the feeling of supremacy. Simply recognising differences and applying them to everyday speech isn’t racism, it’s just accepting or using our differences.

    > but make rational judgements instead

    Oh how I wish! Like instead of PC-speech people would simply stop being malevolent, offensive, oversensitive, judgemental, and would recognise that saying “black person” is not racism and saying “those people who usually commit the crimes you know wink wink” is. [I cannot write good English examples since it’s not my native tongue, I am sure there are racist phrases about black people not containing the word “black”.]

    > The truly problematic aspect of racism is institutional racism.

    We agree on that. However I believe it is a huge problem when people start ACTING and SPEAKING like they are not racists while they are, and other people start “attacking” (or negatively commenting) people using various words despite not being racists and not being hateful. Like feminists who attack men, like “anti-fascists” who beat people – these have just the opposite effect what originally should have been expected or desired.

    PC-speech is bad the same way, and my mind explodes when a black person say “black person” and These People call him “racist”. They bascially want to control how other people speak.


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    @anders @JoeBidet If there are no races then there cannot be - by definition - racist jokes.

    A lot of Social Justice Fighters actually create a non-existent problem and then fight against it. In my opinion it is not racism to show people, with red hair, black skin, large eyes, short hand, small nose or whatever. If someone looks at these people and see only racism then it may be well possible that the racism is not on the picture but in the head of the said observer.

    In my opinion racism is when someone suggest bad things about a group of people (preferably minority group, according to the internet warriors). I do not see racism when there is no negative feelings involved, just by showing, pointing out or joking about any differences.

    Some people became way oversensitive, and often for “some imagined others”, not even for themselves. It is sad and disturbing, since it became just another opportunity to raise the stress level claiming preceived problems with others.