Brian Molko criticised Giorgia Meloni during a concert at the Sonic Park festival

Meloni heads Italy’s most rightwing government since the second world war. Italy’s criminal code punishes with a fine ranging from €1,000 to €5,000 anyone who “publicly defames the republic”, which includes the government, parliament, the courts and the army.

    • EhList@lemmy.world
      212·
      1 year ago

      The history is there specifically for that purpose so you can tell if someone is full of shit, lying, unqualified to make a specific claim etc.

      The people who claim that “it’s sad” or the equivalent are either unaware of how stuff works or more than likely the kind of person whose history proves they are full of shit.

      • Gorilladrums@lemmy.world
        111·
        1 year ago

        You’re a complete removed. This is a semi anonymous decentralized forum. Everything stated on here stands for itself on its own merits. I’m not going to use my Bachelor’s in CS to make myself any more “qualified”, and neither is anybody on here. The fact that you think there’s any sort of qualifications for opinions on a place like lemmy just shows how shallow your mindset is. The reality is that you’re just looking for any excuse to dismiss or shut down what I said without feeling like a complete idiot for not being able to provide a rebuttal. You’re trying to shield your ignorance with arrogance by pretending that you’re “qualified” by having the “right opinions”. If you have to resort to do something as desperate and intellectually lazy as digging through someone’s profile to provide an ad hom as a replacement for any substance then you already lost. It shows that you have nothing whatsoever.

        • forrgott@lemm.ee
          112·
          1 year ago

          Lol. You managed to abandon your supposed disdain for ad hominem after (checks notes) one comment…

          • Gorilladrums@lemmy.world
            312·
            1 year ago

            I don’t have a disdain for ad homs if they actually come attached with something. Whether it’s an argument, explanation, rebuttal, literally anything. But if the ad hom is used as a replacement for substance then is it meaningless and fallacious, but also shows a great deal of intellectual laziness.

              • Gorilladrums@lemmy.world
                18·
                1 year ago

                You probably think this is a galaxy brain gotcha, when in reality it just shows you’re incapable of comprehend the concept of context. I gave an opinion. You can either agree or disagree. If you disagree then either state that you disagree and leave or explain your disagreement. Leaving ad hom and pretending it’s an explanation is literally the textbook example of why this fallacy is a fallacy. It doesn’t make you any less wrong or me any less right. It just showcases your inability to actually rebuttal what was said. With that being said, if some moron is clearly engaging in bad faith, then there’s nothing for me to explain. There’s literally no argument for me to counter, therfore, these morons just get a reflection of their engagement