• MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    My favorite one is when our utility company asks me to donate to help pay for people’s utilities like they aren’t raking in record amount of cash.

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      Why don’t you help by lowering the prices and being more reasonable? How do I even now you’re actually using the money I donate for people’s bills? That’s a crazy donation request.

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        Come on now, be reasonable. Lowering the prices would mean they can’t buy their 5th mansion. Just stop being selfish and give them a little more money.

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    Those charities have huge overhead. Very little money goes to the actual cause.

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        Don’t donate in general. Use the money to physically give to the people in your local area that run programs.

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        I used to work for a retail chain many years ago and I do not think this is true for everywhere.

        When we were asking for donations it was tracked and if our location didn’t get enough donations our store manager would get talked to by his district manager. I don’t know exactly what happened to the money once it was donated, but I don’t think they would have been so adamant about getting the donations if they didn’t make anything from it.

        This was like 20 years ago though, maybe its different now.

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          Yeah unfortunately the time and place it happened can change the legalities tremendously, but in general right now it appears that at least the type mentioned in the OP is in fact a donation from the customer directly to the charity. The business who is acting as a middleman will not have the donation affect their books, and the customer can keep these receipts so they can claim the donation on their own taxes.

          Even if you don’t itemize your deductions, you can still claim up to 300$ in donations.
          Edit: Apparently this was a temporary thing with the CARES act for 2020 and 2021 and is no longer active.

      • axtualdave@lemmy.world
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        It depends on exactly what the store is doing.

        If the store is representing the extra charge as a donation to a specific charity, generally, the customer can deduct that.

        If it’s far more vague, like, “Give $10 to help poor kids in Africa” the ultimate destination for the funds could be the company’s own ledgers, which it would then use for its own charitable activities and collect the tax deduction, as long as they “help poor kids in Africa.”

        And some stores are just lying. CVS, for instance, was sued as part of a class action suit when, after the company pledges $10 million to the American Diabetes Association, then collected money from customers to fund that pledge.

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    Or just…donate the perfectly good food they constantly throw out into the cadged dumpsters designed to keep homeless people out… Litteraly would cost them nothing…

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      As much as I hate Kroger, Fred Meyer’s donates a LOT of food. Not sure about other stores but I remember a story saying they were one of the top contributors for perishables.

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      “But if we feed them then those broke homeless people won’t come in and spend their (nonexistent) money on our food!” -upper management

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        And there in lies the real problem, they are more scared of their quarterly growth reports and some imaginary ‘lawsuit’ from homeless people (which I believe in most places you can’t sue over donated food) than they care about keeping people alive.

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    I hate these donate screens because I have no idea where the donation actually goes and i don’t want to have to do a ton of research at the grocery checkout about whether its a good charity.

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      I have never seen a donation bin/screen/what have you that didn’t say what charity it was for.

      If a business is collecting donations and then not giving them to the charities in question, that’s just fraud.

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        Yeah but just because they name the charity doesn’t mean its a good charity. Some charities just aren’t good ones to donate to and you’re basically just throwing money down a well when you do donate to them.

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      I think that’s a myth as it isn’t income it goes into a separate fund to transfer 1:1.

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        Even if it is revenue, it is still a net loss. All it does is reduce taxable income, which is still makes the donation a net loss. For anyone not aware, the current federal US corporate income tax rate is 21%. So if a company gives 100 dollars to charity, they only save 21 dollars in taxes, so they are still down roughly 79 dollars, depending on the state taxes of where they are incorporated.

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          Yeah but in this scenerio company isn’t the one giving that 100 dollars, customers gives company 100 dollars to donate, company donates it, gets 21 Dollars back. Which is a 21 dollar profit for the company

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      Here me out before accusing me of being a billionaire toady.

      Not really, at least not in the US. Charitable contributions are a deduction from taxable income, not a credit, so it is still a net financial loss to donate.

      Where the benefit comes is the PR and power over the organization they donate to and its sphere of influence.

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        It is a net loss if you donate your own money, in this situation Company isn’t donating from it’s own revenue. It is donating customers money.

        If I donated 1000$ and claimed tax deductible it would be a net loss. But if I asked everyone for donations, raised 1000$, donated that and claimed tax deductible that wouldn’t be a net loss.

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        No, but you should still donate yourself. It allows you to focus on charities that you care the most about and which you can research as having the greatest potential positive impact.

        If you give $1 to Grocery Store to donate to Cause, what happens is Grocery Store gains $1 of taxable revenue, then they remove that $1 of taxable revenue with the deduction. All the deductions do is make it so that Grocery Store neither gains nor loses money from the forwarded donations. They simply aren’t paying taxes on the money you gave them to donate.

        The rules for this are good.

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    PSA: most Americans can get up to $300 deducted from their annual taxes through donations.

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    It’s still fine.

    Some big international store in europe is asking to buy food from them for full price and donate it to food bank. Fuckin hilarious for making profit on charity.

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    They do, in a dystopian way; they pass off your donation as their own.

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    People that give money for those charities are giving those companies free tax write offs.

    You donate $10 or whatever. The company can then claim that $10 as a write off via donation to that charity. Campaign as a whole (either regional or national) collects $1M USD. Corporate accountants write off donation. Tax liability reduced.

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      That’s not how tax write offs work. The only way to claim that money in a write-off would be for the business to also claim it as revenue. That would even out, with no tax savings. Businesses also don’t handle donations that way, they usually serve as a collection agent that just passes your donations on without being able to claim it towards their revenue or their tax write offs. The only person who can write-off their donation is the person who actually made it.

      The reason businesses do it is for marketing. They get to put out a press release saying “They helped donate $10 million to puppies without borders.”

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        That’s not how tax write offs work

        Jerry: So we’re gonna make the Post Office pay for my new stereo now?

        Kramer: It’s a write-off for them.

        Jerry: How is it a write-off?

        Kramer: They just write it off.

        Jerry: Write it off what?

        Kramer: Jerry, all these big companies, they write off everything.

        Jerry: You don’t even know what a write-off is.

        Kramer: Do you?

        Jerry: No, I don’t.

        Kramer: But they do. And they’re the ones writing it off.

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        I intended on writing this comment yesterday but jerboa timed out on me. It’s a common misconception and I understand how it gets spread, but I wish there was better knowledge and education of how taxes worked in general. Would make it easier for the average person to spot the ways companies do evade taxes, too.

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      No, that’s not how it works. In order to do so, they’d have to first claim the money received as income.

      That said, there are scummy things that they do. At the least, it’s saying “we [bigcorp] donated $1,000,000 to charity” when in reality all that they did was collect it. In other situations, companies like Sobey’s doesn’t actually pass on food bank donations as cash, but rather have then as credit to buy products only from Sobey’s.