• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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    I’ll repeat this fact once again since your reading comprehension is evidently lacking: all the core economy in China is publicly owned and state owned enterprises account for half the economy. And you’re now arguing against cooperative ownership as well here?

    Yes it retained some pockets of socialism in the rural country side and their capital city to keep up appearances.

    Some pockets being half the economy. You show an amazing lack of intellectual honesty bud.

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      You do know that state-monopolist capitalism exists and is practiced in many countries, not only China?

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        What both you and I know is that China has very different outcomes from actual capitalist states. Of course, you’re unable to acknowledge this basic fact since your whole nonsensical argument would then unravel.

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          Yes China is (so far) an example of a successful capitalist country. Your point being?

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            My point being is that you keep calling China capitalist when it’s demonstrably not. To sum up, China is a country where Marxism-Leninism is the official state ideology, it’s governed by the communist party, vast majority of the population are communists, all the essential economy is state owned, but according to you it’s actually capitalist. Some serious galaxy brain logic happening here.

            I especially love the chauvinism inherent in your argument where you evidently think that you understand what communism is better than 1.4 billion people in China.

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              You go ask some people living in Shanghai what they think about their “communism” while shopping Gucchi handbags and driving a Tesla.

              Or those slaving away at Foxconn to produce iPhones for the west… really nice “communism” for sure.

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                87.6% of young Chinese identify with Marxism, and the party has 95 million members. Obviously though, you understand what communism is or how to achieve it much better.

                I love how you can’t wrap your head around that the real world can’t live up to some Platonic ideal of society. What you’re doing here is creating a false dichotomy where anything that’s not a perfect classless and stateless society is capitalism. And apparently there is magic dust you have to sprinkle to turn a capitalist society into a communist one in a blink of an eye.

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                  Turning your country into a turbo-capitalist place, while paying a lip-service to socialism is going to make many people want some real “Marxism” indeed.

                  And you should try to think a bit harder on how a society grown rich and fundamentally dependent on Capitalist means of production is going to magically turn into a communist one… that’s going to need some magic dust indeed.

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                    Ah yes, a turbo-capitalist place where all the essential economy is publicly owned, that builds massive infrastructure, lifted over a billion people out of poverty, and handled the pandemic. I am starting to think you don’t even understand what capitalism is. Ideologically blind-sighted it seems.