The mental gymnastics involved:
Kamala Harris is committing a genocide | You are aware of this and do not care | You are a genocide supporter
I don’t support genocide, therefore I support the person committing genocide. I am a serious adult who shouldn’t be thrown down a mineshaft with the other fascists.
noooo I said I was sad about ittttttIt’s an ethical genocide which falls within a Rules Based International Order. Not anything like the lawless, foreign, bad kind of genocide that the other side endorses.
This shows an important aspect of how they’re providing cover for the genocide.
There’s no Democratic Party, there’s no caucuses or leadership.
It’s just like 100 million helpless smol beans who are against all war but they can’t do anything! They’re so smol and helpless! So they just have to join the regime’s genocide because they’re so smol!
And to an extent they’re right. America doesn’t have real political parties. There’s no structure, there’s no leadership, there’s no accountability. To the best of my knowledge the democrats don’t really have anything like the internal party structure of the communist party in China or Cuba or the old Soviet states. There’s no mechanism for the rank and file to put demands on the leadership. I’m not even sure if they have any organized internal structure, i think in a real sense they pull it all together during elections.
To the best of my knowledge the democrats don’t really have anything like the internal party structure of the communist party in China or Cuba or the old Soviet states.
The Democrats and Republicans do not even have the party structures of bourgeois parties elsewhere in the imperial core. There is no accountability of the leadership, no publically agreed-upon party programme, the caucuses and primaries exist without any formalized framework.
It would be deeply unserious if they weren’t perfect as their jobs as stooges for the bourgeoisie and jesters for the public
There’s no Democratic Party, there’s no caucuses or leadership.
I fucking wish. There is an iron fisted Wall Street endorsed policy platform that candidates break from at their own peril.
There’s no structure, there’s no leadership, there’s no accountability.
Tell Jamal Bowman and Cori Bush. Tell Al Franken and Jessica Cisneros. Tell any number of would be popular Dems who hit a brick wall of party insider money or find a knife in their backs for pissing off the wrong Middle Eastern money laundering group.
There is structure. There is leadership. There is accountability. It’s all just run by bad people.
I think the point is there’s a difference between calcified hierarchy and formal org structure
The former tends to be a long term consequence of success with the latter.
But I think the mistake is to see Democrats and GOPers as party formations dedicated to liberal v conservative principles. It is closer to say that both Dems and GOPers regional coalitions that exist to promote people up the political hierarchy in a respective state or territory through the mechanism of liberal democracy. And each of these territorial members happens to have its own set of dogmatic beliefs, which inform who is eligible to climb said hierarchy.
The real formal organizational structure takes place through fundraising/media networks within a privatized network of mega-corps and donation bundlers. But this manifests as party orthodoxy, because the only way to work your way up into party leadership is to pledge yourself to the various donor/media cartels.
To say there is no Party Line or formal recruitment/organizing/promotion within these parties… Come on. You only have to look at the careers of Federalist Society Judges, Freshmen Congresscritters, and partisan rising stars to know that’s not true. There’s clearly a pathway to power. The people who walk it most nimbly (Kamala Harris, the Clintons, and Barack Obama are all hallmark examples of the trajectory of a successful modern Democrat) can reach the highest eschalons of authority, because they work their way through the same groups of influential mega-donors. Hell, Barack Obama did a John Kerry speed run, running through the exact same networks that set Kerry against Bush in 2004.
All very true.
I dont get how Trump will be a worse outcome for Palestinians, we already are giving Israelis free reign to do whatever they want
liberals think that if you don’t sugarcoat your motivations with lies and excuses this makes the bombs hurt more
Somehow trump is going to make white phosporous burn hotter or be more toxic
A fate worse than death.
I get a slew of downvotes over on Lemmy every time I ask how many Palestinians will still be alive by the time Trump takes office.
They can’t explain just say it’ll be worse cause it’s trump. Pointing out it can’t really get worse for them even if nuked does nothing but it’ll be worse cause they’ll be put in camps
Except they’re already being put in camps
Yes but they can’t accept that point
Liberals explaining how voting for the vice president helping perpetuate a genocide is NOT genocide support, while also attacking their opposition by saying he will perpetuate a WORSE genocide
This is absolutely brilliant
I always keep it in my back pocket, but surprisingly enough I always meet Honest Westerner types, never Lockheed Liberal types that try to justify their cognitive dissonance.
What’s an honest westerner type?
The ones in the meme, the ones that just say “yeah fascism benefits me so I’m a fascist” instead of trying to say they love human rights while still endorsing genocide/working at a defense company.
Ahhh okay I don’t know how I missed that lol, thanks for the patience
Voting for the genocide-supporting candidate is not supporting genocide, yet somehow not voting for the genocide-supporting candidate is supporting the other, supposedly more genocide-supporting candidate.
It’s never even a denial of the genocide. If they were unintentionally ignorant, that would be better.
The libs like this who support Isreal, support Ukraine, and support Harris that go “um all killing is bad actually. I’m against ALL war.”
Like this puts them in some unassailable moral high ground while they continue to support the US lead genocide and global hegemonic aggression
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Banging the sign again…
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I simply throw it right back at them. 50% of the electorate does not vote, so if they aren’t doorknocking they are not serious. If they have the energy to complain about non-voters, then they have the energy to get their ass off the computer and pounding pavement.
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I want you to know I’ve started using your comment as a link
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Lmao we should have a bot for this. This is like the electorialist version of when I hound libs asking them why they won’t volunteer for Ukraine
It would ironically be less effort to make that bot than manually keeping up with the
In general we need more bots.
I’ve got so many I wanna make, just wish I could code
“The system fucking sucks, so we have to perpetuate it.”
“One of the two parties is gonna win though. I’m being a pragmatic adult who doesn’t live in fantasy land.”
“also if the wrong one wins the system will collapse so we have to make sure the right one wins even if it’s bad otherwise we don’t have democracy. And yes we gotta do it again in four years. Be realistic.”
This is exactly where most libs are at right now. They have become a parody of themselves. A smuglord oroboros
“The system fucking sucks, so we have to perpetuate it.”
The subtext and ultimate political message of most P R E S T I G E T V shows, right there.
My solution to genocide? Simple. Duct tape over my mouth, and zip tying my hands together. Simple!
Got into a argument with a family member that made the same thing “I hate to see people suffer, war is bad… but also I’m gonna support the side that’s carrying it out”
Many such cases
almost a wasted vote
Such a mealy mouthed liberal that even their own non-point is blunted with the “almost” language. SAD!
Yes i support the administration carrying out a genocide. Yes i am not just voting but advocating for others to vite firva candidate who has explicitly said they will continue the genocide. But have you considered that I’m personally against ALL killing? Mental gymnastics much tankie
Hey lirebals, switch to parliamentary system with proportional representation then.
I was there for that shit.
The Drej Queen of the Drej Tank is totally for war and killing and can, if excessively, fix all of this.
You guys don’t get it! Killing all the Palestinians because we are Israel’s cuck will be way worse under Trump! Please vote for the girlboss genocider instead! I’m a lib and I have the moral compass of turd that’s been baking in the sun.
