• DamarcusArt
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    14 days ago

    These graphs always make far more sense when you measure them by “subservience to the US” instead

    • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      One of the things I tell people when trying to counter the liberal narrative is that South Korea was a military dictatorship for years and years and they are routinely surprised. They go “huh, I thought they were on the side of democracy.” Yeah uhhh about that…

      • CTHlurker [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        You can just bring up various arab monarchies, as they are basically all completely subservient. Or like all the Operation Condor type regimes in South America, or the Apartheid governments in South Africa.

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          Those are also great examples but I think the Korea example is the best because they’re programmed to think of North Korea as the bad spooky dictatorship that we were opposing with our “freedom and democracy.” Who knows. Maybe Israel will go so far off the rails that the Arab monarchies will look normal by comparison and that’ll be my go-to example.

      • autismdragon [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.netOP
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        Thinking about the time I watched one of those cartoon recaps of history out of curiosity for the cold war, and for both the Koreas and the Vietnams they deigned to say that they were BOTH “brutal dictatorships” instead of one being evil and the other good, and how that felt relatively refreshing lmao.