• context [fae/faer, fae/faer]@hexbear.net
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    nate is making the mistake of thinking the atlantic and antlanticism were created as an intellectual project rather than a white supremacist one.

    My basic criticism is that while it presents itself as a magazine of ideas—which makes readers feel as if they are engaging intelligently with important issues—it in fact covers those issues in such a superficial and slipshod way that people are liable to be left with a worse understanding of the issue than when they went in, though they may be wrongly convinced that they have learned something.

    his criticism is that he really wants it to be a magazine of ideas instead of a propaganda mill for liberal american racism, but the purpose of a system if what it does, nate.

    • Hmm [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      Is he really making a mistake? It seems to me like he’s engaging in immanent critique of The Atlantic.

      He’s showing how what it does contradicts and differs from what it says it does.

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      And New York Post, not that i see it daily, but every single time i see something from there it’s gutter class lies

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        NYP isn’t as fart sniffing as New Yorker or Atlantic are tbf. You know they are a shitty tabloid. It’s the Trump’s “Palestinians are dogs” vs Harrris’ “We care about Palestinians which is why we will keep giving Israel weapons”.

        The Atlantic pretends to be 5head centrist big thinking outlet.

    • DragonBallZinn [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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      NGL, as a lefty the New Yorker is surprisingly readable. Maybe I’m coping because I have fond memories of reading them as a liberal teenager. Ironically despite being the “rich people” magazine, in 2020 it was actually somewhat fair to Bernie.

      They’re far from comrades, but if I want to engage with something from a non-leftist POV, they’re my go-to.

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          I still don’t see how this is radlib. It might be radical to your or me, but how is it a radical form of liberalism instead of just a form of mainstream liberalism?

          We should be careful about watering down words. The Atlantic being radlib would mean there’s little liberalism that isn’t radlib.

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            Actually I agree here radlib is better for Novara, Prospect, ProPublica, FAIR, Cosmonaut Mag, MintPress, Struggle La Lucha. Stuff for the more conscientious rubes.