• daniyeg [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    if anyone’s lips touches a drop of alcohol they instantly convert to christianity. everyone here knows that.

    EDIT: also holy shit islamic “occupiers” is such a dog whistle lmao.

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    Iranians are theological authoritarians, but they also follow supply and demand principals and shut down mosques because people are openly refusing to be muslim

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        And then you learn about economics and it’s actually like, not even a real, consistent thing at all because real economies are absurd and the idea of “supply and demand” is just a vague rule of thumb guess as to what’ll probably happen when you change something, but you can just as easily get rising demand from rising supply (as something becomes accessible and popularized), falling demand from falling supply (because people can just get something else), unpredictable effects from related changes in cost or availability (like a decreasing cost also decreasing consumption, because it means people can afford to replace a portion of their consumption with something more desirable), and effectively random changes from shifts in consumption or production of entirely unrelated things.

        Basically everything they teach people about economics below a post grad level (and by that point someone’s in too deep to catch just how groundless all the pure ideology they’ve been taught is) is just flat out wrong to the point of being not just an oversimplification but outright incoherent lies. It’s like if Biology as taught in grade and high schools was interested primarily in doing dog breed race science with a handwaved “and other things are like this too, because that’s intuitively correct to believe” and taught that cells were actually sort of like tiny dogs and that plants were just dogs that sit really still all the time and that was somehow supposed to form a workable framework for anything and also that was literally the hegemonic state-sanctioned ideology.

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          cells were actually sort of like tiny dogs and that plants were just dogs that sit really still all the time

          Omg I understand biology now tails-what

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          (like a decreasing cost also decreasing consumption, because it means people can afford to replace a portion of their consumption with something more desirable)

          just in case someone doesn’t understand this:

          • streaming service reduces fees
          • person now has more money
          • uses it to build a computer
          • now spends their time gaming
          • questions why they even have the streaming service
          • cancels
          • an eagle named “supply and demand” sat atop the chalk and shed a tear
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            The real world example I’ve seen cited for that is potatoes as a staple food being partially replaced by meat or other comparative luxury foods as their price fell because having to spend less on potatoes to survive meant people could buy a small amount of meat and so didn’t need as many potatoes.

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      yeah they are still around. one of my friends was Zoroastrian. thanks to people’s interest in them they are not doing badly but they still face the difficulties minority religions in iran have, their membership is dwindling and when your ethnic-religious identity is wrapped up in fascist fantasies of pure aryanhood it tends to attract a certain type towards you.

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      Regardless of active participation in the religion, Zoroastrianism has lasting effects on Iranian culture that people passively observe in the same way that Buddhism and Taoism remain relevant in China

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    Edit: Holy shit I hadn’t read the last sentence

    Uh, if this derangement means they wont cheer for nuclear war with Iran like libs do, eh lets welcome it

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    Where do they cook up these numbers? I can never find a source, and whenever I bring that up they always say that the IRI is censoring it.

    I don’t mean to be one of those people, but can we start mandating Intro to Logic for all religious people? At least the Christians because it’s annoying when they say this shit.

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    Don’t Zoroastrians not accept converts? (Pulling this outta my ass yes)

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      I think most orthodox groups of zoroastrians outright don’t, not just because of an ethnic component but because of a religious-philosophical notion that whatever religion you are is what is intended for the world. So it’s even less of a missionary religion than Judaism. It’s only now-ish that a counter movement from certain groups is forming, as they realize the religion is nearly dead.

      Ngl ‘iranian’ people who are actually canadian or australian seem to nurture the most insane of world views. For one, they like to call themselves persian even though thats kitsch at best and supremacist at worst.

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        For one, they like to call themselves persian even though thats kitsch at best and supremacist at worst.

        There are so many ethnic/ racial groups within Iran; azeris, Kurds, Arabs, Persians, balochis, etc. Persian is 50% roughly depending on your source. Not only that but calling Iran persia, is a colonial term.

        That’s why they changed the name themselves to Iran, because they’re the land of the Ayranian people.

        Someone should tell them to do a test at least.