• shneancy@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1061·
      2 个月前

      i know you’re joking but fuck, sometimes it do be like that.

      Obviously nobody should infantalise people suffering from depression by telling them to “just be happy”, “go outside” etc. but if you’re malnourished, have vitamin deficiencies, don’t go out to hang out with the human tribe, and sit in your home the entire day without moving - you’re going to feel like shite. Fixing those problems won’t cure clinical depression, but the other way round is true too - getting meds for depression won’t cure you of feeling like shit if you don’t use the chance they give you to try to improve your life yourself.

      • TexasDrunk@lemmy.worldEnglish
        28·
        2 个月前

        I had an iodine deficiency! I wasn’t eating dairy or eggs, I was cooking my own food from scratch, and I was using sea salt instead of iodized salt. In addition, I like drinking alcohol which makes it harder to absorb iodine. Felt like shit. Couldn’t muster the energy to give the slightest shit about anything.

        Got blood work done and found out. So I started taking a supplement every other day for it specifically because I’m just not getting it in my diet. I’m feeling pretty great now.

        I don’t think supplements are generally the answer, but having a work up done and learning some shit about yourself can be pretty eye opening and point you at what you need to do to fix your diet. It’s a good first step, but not a magic bullet.

        • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
          2·
          2 个月前

          i’d say everyone should just try an all-round supplement for a while, and if that makes you feel like you’ve been reborn you know you had some sort of deficiency, and you can just try to identify it.

          So like, they’re more of a temporary tool than a golden bullet, IMO

    • ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      511·
      2 个月前

      Vitamin deficiencies are easy to detect and to treat, and there’s no sense in spending months or years hoping to find the right anti-depressant before checking for them. Heck, I wish my issues were caused by vitamin deficiencies.

    • 474D@lemmy.worldEnglish
      23·
      2 个月前

      I know you’re joking but I only figured out I have anemia because iron supplements suddenly gave me energy to live

    • stoly@lemmy.worldEnglish
      11·
      2 个月前

      That literally happened to me. Turns out that my doctor’s resident who just finished a psych rotation learned that most people are deficient in magnesium.

    • imPastaSyndrome@lemm.eeEnglish
      81·
      2 个月前

      It’s not always someone saying - it’s definitely these and anyone who is depressed just isn’t taking these, it’s literally just a kind and actually possible and helpful suggestion

    • Psythik@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      2 个月前

      I wish this were true for me but Magnesium just made me slightly less depressed; indistinguishable from placebo.

    • frezik@midwest.socialEnglish
      49·
      2 个月前

      There’s something seductive about the idea that all our problems are caused by this one thing, and if we could figure out what it is and fix it, we’d be unstoppable at life. It’s the same idea behind “doctors hate this one weird trick”.

      On occasion, it even turns out to be correct.

    • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
      1·
      2 个月前

      fibre is honestly really close to this, start eating more fibre and suddenly your stomach is your friend and you shit gracefully.

  • DaddleDew@lemmy.worldEnglish
    881·
    2 个月前

    NGL, I’ve spent a decade wondering why I couldn’t sleep at night and couldn’t concentrate all day, only to finally realize I was constantly low on electrolytes because of my intense exercise routine.

    And if anyone is wondering, sports drinks are worthless sugary drinks shrouded in “sporty” marketing. Vitamin D, Calcium and Magnesium is what helped me (and are far more cost efficient than sports drinks). Consult a doctor.

  • Wirlocke@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    45·
    2 个月前

    Everyday I would wake up with severely sore arms, like they were clenched somehow.

    Blood test said Vitamin D deficiency, but the supplements didn’t do anything noticeable. But I was on the border of anemia so they told me to try iron supplements too.

    Gone overnight. I’m so used to problems being an exhausting road to recovery that this one took me by surprise.

    • Eiri@lemmy.caEnglish
      9·
      2 个月前

      Huh. My recurring biceps pains are the bane of my existence. And I was also refused for a blood donation due to insufficient hemoglobin. I need to try iron supplements.

  • fckreddit@lemmy.mlEnglish
    29·
    2 个月前

    I am love deficient. Not that I am demanding that people should love me for no reason. Just that I wish I feel loved a tiny bit. I know that the fault is most probably with me too.

    Edit: I feel like I am stuck in a loop, I feel self-pity because I don’t feel loved. I am probably not loved because I feel self-pity. Breaking the cycle is hard.

    • Hacksaw@lemmy.caEnglish
      9·
      2 个月前

      Our communities are setup like that. We’re separated from eachother, and we can’t afford to spend enough time at local third places to feel community. Church also used to be central to community and most people aren’t religious, but nothing has replaced the churches role in community building.

      It’s rough. If you can get out to places nearby where people congregate that will be nice. Getting a dog is nice too if you like dogs, they give you love and accept your love and they’re a good ice breaker. They also force you out regularly. You can take the dog to dog parks and chat with locals.

      It’s not your fault. Humans are a social animal and we built cities and an economy that didn’t consider that.

    • nikaaa@lemmy.worldEnglish
      6·
      2 个月前

      It is important that you love yourself. In fact, I think it’s important that you feel loved by someone, even if that somebody is yourself.

  • Psythik@lemmy.worldEnglish
    292·
    2 个月前

    FWIW I already take these vitamins daily, along with magnesium, zinc, copper, folate, manganese, boron, St. John’s Wort, Ashwagandha, Tumeric, SAM-e, Saffron, Kratom, Ginko Baloba, L-theanine, along with a nightly dose of Valerian Root, L-Tryptophan, lemon balm extract, 5-HTP, and 500+ mg of a high THC extract, and I’m still tired and miserable all the time.

    Even walking 20k+ steps a day at my job isn’t enough. I’ve never been healthier and more depressed. Tried therapy for a decade but gave up when I couldn’t find a single therapist I can relate with. Not even pharmaceuticals helped me. I’ve accepted the fact that I am just going to be perpetually tired and miserable for the rest of my life and there’s nothing anyone can do to help.

    (FWIW I don’t take kratom daily. Only at work. And the dosage of THC can range from as low as 100mg all the way up to a full gram of pure THC distillate. Yes these are accurate numbers. I live in a legal state and can get distillate for $5/g. I have a high tolerance and don’t get high anymore; just sleepy. If I don’t have any THC in my system, I can’t sleep at all no matter how tired I am. The insomnia was hell until I discovered weed in my 20s).

    • ayyy@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      38·
      2 个月前

      My sibling in science, I have consumed enough weed in my life to earn me an approving nod from Snoop himself, but on the off chance you’re not shitposting:

      500mg is entirely too much for a nighttime dose. You are not getting any proper REM sleep at all if you’re actually doing this to yourself every night. Take a fuckin T-break man.

      • Shard@lemmy.worldEnglish
        16·
        2 个月前

        I think this person is on the opposite end and is overwhelming him/herself with too much supplements…

        • ayyy@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          112·
          2 个月前

          It’s a very common sign of addiction to try every supplement under the sun instead of just addressing the cessation of substance abuse because that’s a much more challenging hill to climb.

        • refalo@programming.devEnglish
          5·
          2 个月前

          You don’t think they started out tired all the time with no supplements and then slowly added them to try it out?

          • Psythik@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            2 个月前

            This is correct. I only got this far into the drugs and suppliments because existence was nothing but pain before I discovered everything I currently take over the course of several decades. At least now I’m at a level where I can hold down a job. Before I started taking all this shit, I was a NEET well into my 30s. But now I have a wife and a mortgage and a job. Still miserable but it’s progress.

    • nikaaa@lemmy.worldEnglish
      11·
      2 个月前

      Honestly I think it’s most likely that you’re simply overworked. (many/most people are)

      I think that being overworked, together with emotional instability/lack of security, are the most prevalent causes of mental illnesses in our society today. It’s no “chemical imbalance in your brain” story. Sure, there’s chemical imbalance, but where does that imbalance come from? I guess it’s mostly that our bodies aren’t built for today’s demands.

    • FUBAR@lemm.eeEnglish
      7·
      2 个月前

      I think ashwaganda is not supposed to be taken daily long term

      • Psythik@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        2 个月前

        I know but it’s the only way I can feel joy. Before I discovered kratom I never knew what it felt like to smile.

        FWIW I only take it on the days really need it (so basically only at work).

    • JovialMicrobial@lemm.eeEnglish
      3·
      2 个月前

      Have you tried having a sleep study done? Sometimes your body can go through the sleep cycles weird, or they get interupted resulting in being really tired all the time. A sleep specialist can see what’s going on and help you fix it.

      • Psythik@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        2 个月前

        Who’s going to pay for it? I don’t have the thousands to fork over for a sleep study.

        • JovialMicrobial@lemm.eeEnglish
          1·
          2 个月前

          That’s why I added if you have the means, I absolutely understand if you don’t. I just had a tooth extracted that was overdue by a few years. Just didn’t have the money to get it filled before it cracked in half and I was in excruciating pain for months. I get it.

          Maybe try a community health center if you have one near you? They usually do a sliding scale and can make referrals to doctors who work with uninsured or under-insured people. That’s how I got my tooth taken care of without being thousands in debt after. Just google “community health centers near 'name of town & state.” That is if you feel like pursuing it. Totally get it if you don’t, but the above info can help with other health related issues too.

          Either way, I hope even a little of that info is helpful to you. I fucking hate healthcare that’s useless AND expensive. Wishing you the best.

  • LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.worldEnglish
    20·
    2 个月前

    “I am tired when I get up,” this is also a sign of a sleep disorder like narcolepsy or sleep apnea.

    It can be a sign of thyroid issues.

    Copper, selenium, zinc, and other deficiencies can cause fatigue as well

    • OldWoodFrame@lemm.eeEnglish
      8·
      2 个月前

      I just have a lot of sleep inertia. Sleepy when I get up, not sleepy at bed time.

      I did also have a vitamin D deficiency without knowing it though.

      • LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        2 个月前

        Sure, sleep inertia can be caused by lots of things. It is a sign of narcolepsy, sleep apnea, or other sleep issues in many people or can be vitamin based.

  • LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.worldEnglish
    19·
    2 个月前

    I was like this. Saw a new rheumatologist who took my various symptoms seriously. Turns out I’m chronically deficient in vitamin D. Had to take weekly megadosea for 3 months and now I’m on a daily supplement of a lower dose. I also started hydroxychloroquine for whatever autoimmune disease I have (I’ll hopefully be getting a formal diagnosis on the 16th)

    I feel so much better than I did. I actually have a life now and can go out and do things I enjoy.

    Absolute life-changing treatment. I’ve been trying to get rheumatologists to take me seriously for 20 years.

      • LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.worldEnglish
        8·
        2 个月前

        Yep. Apparently my records for years showed it and nobody ever said anything to me. I’m looking into replacing a lot of my doctors because of it. I also keep a better eye on results on my own now.

        • Fernlike@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          3·
          2 个月前

          In Turkiye, you can check your blood test results at home with E-nabız, which also shows any irregularities in your blood (as in marks values that are not in the regular range with red). Could there be something similar in your country?

      • TriflingToad@lemmy.worldEnglish
        5·
        2 个月前

        I don’t know what you mean by PC so I’m just assuming the doctor is sitting in the doctor room just playing doom 1993

    • werefreeatlast@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      2 个月前

      My wife and I turned up low in vitamin D too. We’re on the megadoses. She is, I’m doing good since it’s still summer. I’m going back to megadoses as soon as the sun stops showing up. Anyway I was just going to ask if your sleeping improved. My wife can’t sleep. I sleep like a baby, but I have a strong suspicion that I got some immunological problem going on because I have a permanent elbow pain and a reoccurring rib cage pain. Getting old…

      • meowMix2525@lemm.eeEnglish
        1·
        2 个月前

        I’m a big fan of magnesium citrate or chelated magnesium for more restful sleep, might be worth a shot. Not a doctor though.

        • MrShankles@reddthat.comEnglish
          2·
          2 个月前

          “Magnesium Glycinate” is the one I choose for daily use. Magnesium Citrate is great at getting those Mg levels up initially; but for daily maintenance, I prefer the glycinate version. They kinda have their own use-cases imo

  • brbposting@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    195·
    2 个月前

    Would this have been an acceptable reply?:

    I’m sorry you’re feeling so drained.

    I’ve heard sometimes iron, B12, or vitamin D deficiencies can sometimes contribute to persistent fatigue, but whatever the cause, I hope you’re able to get the support you need to start feeling better soon.

  • ErinCrush@lemm.eeEnglish
    7·
    2 个月前

    I need a good daily vitamin. I just need to bite the bullet and order some. I swear some things wrong with me truly are because I eat 99 cent ramens for dinner because I just don’t want to spend money on food that’s good for me lol.

  • sumguyonline@lemmy.worldEnglish
    5·
    2 个月前

    If people could only share useful information that helps people like this, the world would be a better place. Search out the deficiencies, tell others how to satiate them once you find the way!!! Vitamin D, Calcium, Magnesium, Zinc, and Kelp(for iodine, but kelp allows for enormous idodine intake). Those vitamins all work together and help you to feel great!

  • AnimalsDream@slrpnk.netEnglish
    312·
    2 个月前

    One of the things that’s too often overlooked is that subtractions might do more to help than additions. If you’re taking a host of vitamins, herbal remedies, and strange supplements and still feeling like shit, it’s likely because all the medicine in the world won’t heal if you’re still taking poison.

    Not to be that person, but I am fully convinced that eating animal products plays a decisive role in depression and other mood disorders. Not only is there science pointing in that direction, but it matches my own personal experience as well as what every other plant-based person I’ve known has experienced as well. Before the switch I was so far in a constant background noise of depression that I was ambivalent about whether I wanted to live or not.

    I’ve tried a lot of things, with only ever small or temporary results at best. Going plant-based, within weeks of staying consistent with it, marked the first time in my life when I actually began to actively want to live (even in spite of our capitalist hellscape). That desire to live has endured since then to the point that it’s tempting to say I might be cured of depression.

    https://nutritionfacts.org/video/anti-inflammatory-diet-for-depression/

    https://nutritionfacts.org/video/how-to-boost-brain-bdnf-levels-for-depression-treatment/

    • LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      2 个月前

      Perhaps you had an imbalance of vitamin a. Plant based vitamin a (beta carotene) is safe and can’t really be overdosed. Plant based diets tend to have more vitamin e in them as well, and vitamin e sort of counteracts vitamin a.

      • AnimalsDream@slrpnk.netEnglish
        1·
        2 个月前

        The sheer amount of changes that occur on a plant-based diet are too numerous for me to be able to pinpoint any specific thing. It wouldn’t surprise me if I do get more vitamin a these days, as well as quite a few other important micronutrients that I may or may not have been low on.

        And that’s not even getting into the vast topic of phytonutrients.