Reminds me of how before gamergate turned all the chauvinist libertine treatlads into tradcaths and groyper freaks most of American counter culture was just chauvinist libertine treatlads like that who wanted their funtime treats like drugs, porn, and free access to young women’s bodies, raving against the theocratic weirdos who gated those treats behind assimilation into the “respectable” white christian patriarchal order where well off family patriarchs could have and do whatever they wanted as long as they dressed well and shaved and had short hair and went to church and kept their substance abuse and sexual predation behind closed doors.