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      Ideas and movements are easy to coopt and twist and lie about and use opportunistically. Ideas and movements are not sufficient. I believe in organized and disciplined parties of the advanced section of the working class, of which America has none and that’s why our “squad” never had a snowflakes chance in hell against the trillions of dollars of military funding and corporate donations. They were doomed from the very start, as are every single squishy left unorganized potato in a sack who tries to reform this place

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        your comment made me think about how the US security state sent out fake protestors with megaphones during the latter half of the summer of 2020 and would use the plants to corral the mass of unorganized protestors

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          the unique difficulty of organizing in America is that everyone here is libertarian brain-poisoned and completely individualist. They want to have the perfect politics and are on an individual quest for political redemption and perfection. We cannot win until we destroy that mindset and people begin to understand we need discipline, and hold collective interests above individual interests.

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      I think the idea and movement to move the Democratic party left is done. The individuals tasked and hired to do so have been nullified and co-opted by the forces they were supposed to resist.

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        There’s simply no way to do it without outright ousting the current leadership out of the party entirely, which is effectively ending it in all but name only.

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          The problem is, the “democratic party” barely exists as an organization. It’s a brand, a fundraising network, and a small informal network of insiders. None of which are possible or useful to “take over”

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            Yeah it’s become a party machine but with only the corrupted leadership elements, with the ward captains that have deep connections to their neighborhoods and ensuring everyone gets a turkey at Thanksgiving aspects removed. It really is just the brand and the baked-in “blue no matter who” voters that have any use.