How does Linux it self or some other software on Linux address what Crowd Strike is doing for Windows?

E: thanks for the answers :)

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    CrowdStrike’s Falcon Sensor agent can be and is installed on bare metal, VMs and inside Kubernetes clusters. All running Linux.

    is there a use case … on Linux

    It’s already installed on Linux, in massive companies all around the globe. Leadership sure thinks so.

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      Like it or not, most cyber insurance policies require all endpoints and hosts be secured with industry approved edr solution. Crowdstrike is a very popular multi platform player in that space. 🤷‍♂️

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    CrowdStrike Falcon is XDR product, there is hundreds of similar products available.

    The role of XDR is to detect and block if some bad actor is trying to do something malicious in the machine. Old school virus signature detection is not enough anymore, you need pattern detection from network communication/DNS queries etc.

    When corporation has thousands of devices to monitor the OS each of those devices Is not relevant. You need to detect if some random user logs to some Linux info display thousand kilometers away, and starts scanning the network.

    Because the detection and response, needs to happen near realtime, for example Incase of cryptolockers, where all devices are encrypted within seconds, the software blocking this needs kernel level access.

    I work in critical infrastructure as IT, but luckily we did not use falcon

  • Possibly linux@lemmy.zip
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    It detects and reports bad behavior of software

    Monitoring is very important when you have 1000 machines

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    If someone starts transferring a bunch of files to an external drive, heuristics will detect that and alert. Source: I worked at crowdstrike six years ago.

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    How does Linux it self or some other software on Linux address what Crowd Strike is doing for Windows?

    Well, it usually drops to a black screen and kernel panics, but lately there’s been a bit of a push for parity with windows.

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      The Linux BSOD is quite funny. But reading from Crowd Strike’s website the Falcon product is supposed to monitor for breaches(?), so I was curious about what analogs exist in Linux or how the OS it self takes on that role.

      • TechNom (nobody)@programming.dev
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        Crowdstrike exists for Linux too. In fact, it apparently crashed RHEL and Debian a few months back. That didn’t get so much attention.

        Falcon seems to be a cross between an antivirus and an intrusion detection system (IDS). There are many antiviruses on Linux, but only one FOSS AV is popular - ClamAV. As for IDS, snort is an example.

        But in the true sense, Falcon is much more than just an AV and IDS. It’s a way to detect breaches and report it back to CrowdStrike’s threat detection and analysis teams. I don’t think there exists a proper alternative even in the commercial sector.

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          I don’t think there exists a proper alternative even in the commercial sector.

          There is a handful of vendors and they indeed monitor a ton more than just viruses. The solution we’re running at the office monitors pretty much all kinds of logs (dns, dhcp, authentication, network traffic…) and it can lock down clients which are behaving wrongly enough. For example every time I change a hosts file (for a legitimate reason) on my own laptop I get a question from security team if that was intented. And it combines logs/data gathered from different systems to identify potential threats and problematic hosts and that’s why our fleet feeds in data from all kinds of devices.

          I haven’t seen that many different solutions which do this, but the few I’ve worked with are a bit hit or miss with linux. The current solution has a funny feature where it breaks dpkg if the server doesn’t have certain things installed (which are not depencies on the packet itself). And they eat up a pretty decent chunk of CPU-cycles and RAM while running. But apparently someone has done the math and decided that it’s worth the additional capacity, it’s outside my pay range so I just install whatever I’m told to.

  • rotopenguin@infosec.pub
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    The use case is - if you are in an industry that is legally mandated to use EDR, it is an EDR product.

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    EDR is a massive security risk, so no.

    If youre forced to install it, put it on a VM and don’t let it escape to your real machine. They can exfiltrate all your data and install malware as root.

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    Is there a use case for CrowdStrike on any platform? No, there isn’t. Anything that messes with the kernel at that level should be considered a security threat on the basis of potential service disruption / threat to business continuity. Do you really want to run a closed source piece of malware as a kernel module?

    They completely fuck over their customers in the business continuity aspect, they become the problem and I bet that most companies would never suffer any catastrophic failure this bad if they didn’t run their software at all. No hacker would be able to take down so many systems so fast and so hard.

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      So what is your suggestion for a viable alternative that auditors will also accept?

    • flux@lemmy.ml
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      As if taking down the systems is the biggest cybersecurity threat a company might have.