More than 1,000 large petrol stations will have to offer at least one fast-charging point for electric vehicles from 2023 in Spain. This is now stipulated in a proposal for a ministerial decree just published by the Spanish Ministry of the Environment. The proposed regulation would affect petrol stations that sell more than five million […]
As long as they’re kept reasonably far away (I imagine a few meters would be enough), it should be fine. The internal combustion engines driving on all sides of the pumps don’t usually ignite it, neither do trolley bus wires (which occasionally let out fairly sizeable sparks) or just general overhead power lines. There’s also no oxygen in the storage tank or feed lines, so even if the vapours catch on fire, it really shouldn’t explode like in the movies.
There’s not much sparking when you use a mobile phone either… but that’s an activity that’s been banned on forecourts.
idk… I think petrol stations are the wrong locations for charging points anyway. Street lights are better. Car parks. Charging takes a while, after all.
Yeah, one of my biggest concerns about current electric cars is long trips and the waiting involved with charging - even super charging isn’t as fast as you would think.
Another idea I’ve had is for EVs to place contacts on the undercarriage, and prongs built into the ground at parking spaces can be raised to meet them for charging. No wires required, and way more efficient than those giant inductive charging pads under the cars (basically a beefed up version of wireless charging for your phone) that some companies thought were a good idea for some reason. Though it would definitely have to be standardised so every EV can work with it.
Some streetcars (trams) already do essentially this. See APS. While the tram is moving, no less.
Over here in Poland I can pretty much use a smartphone right at the pump, they even have a payment method that involves you scanning a QR code on the pump and confirming payment with your card on the phone.
Build solar panel roofs over parking lots and use those to offset the charging energy (I doubt current solar is effienent enough for a car sized area to actually satisfy the entire charging energy requirement, at least not when every space is filled with cars using the array… It will also mitigate the problem of cars getting insanely hot on sunny days and needing to waste energy running the AC to cool it down.
Are people not concerned about high voltage electricity around petrol fumes? Isn’t that a potentially explosive combination?
As long as they’re kept reasonably far away (I imagine a few meters would be enough), it should be fine. The internal combustion engines driving on all sides of the pumps don’t usually ignite it, neither do trolley bus wires (which occasionally let out fairly sizeable sparks) or just general overhead power lines. There’s also no oxygen in the storage tank or feed lines, so even if the vapours catch on fire, it really shouldn’t explode like in the movies.
There’s not much sparking when using electric vehicle chargers
There’s not much sparking when you use a mobile phone either… but that’s an activity that’s been banned on forecourts.
idk… I think petrol stations are the wrong locations for charging points anyway. Street lights are better. Car parks. Charging takes a while, after all.
Yeah, one of my biggest concerns about current electric cars is long trips and the waiting involved with charging - even super charging isn’t as fast as you would think.
Who wants to hang around at a petrol station waiting for the car to charge?
Oh, absolutely no one lol.
on highways they have nice restaurants at least, or coffee shops
Another idea I’ve had is for EVs to place contacts on the undercarriage, and prongs built into the ground at parking spaces can be raised to meet them for charging. No wires required, and way more efficient than those giant inductive charging pads under the cars (basically a beefed up version of wireless charging for your phone) that some companies thought were a good idea for some reason. Though it would definitely have to be standardised so every EV can work with it.
Some streetcars (trams) already do essentially this. See APS. While the tram is moving, no less.
There’s a bus service in Milton Keynes that’s doing this too.
Over here in Poland I can pretty much use a smartphone right at the pump, they even have a payment method that involves you scanning a QR code on the pump and confirming payment with your card on the phone.
Build solar panel roofs over parking lots and use those to offset the charging energy (I doubt current solar is effienent enough for a car sized area to actually satisfy the entire charging energy requirement, at least not when every space is filled with cars using the array… It will also mitigate the problem of cars getting insanely hot on sunny days and needing to waste energy running the AC to cool it down.
yeah I do not think this should be an issue at all.
There is high voltage electricity coursing through gas stations at any given time. There is not real concern here.