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Wasted food drives me nuts
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Vegan food can taste really good. I don’t fucking care if its vegan. I eat stuff because it tastes good.
“deliciousvore”
Fun fact: Since 1973 it has been legally required to serve free lunch at elementary schools every single school day, no exceptions. Since 2011 the food also has to be nutritious.
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A discord server Im in is mostly vegan, exactly the same response. They genuinely believe being militant and alienating will actually work in the long run. Cant fix stupid
I doubt it’s a genuine belief that it will work, to be honest. People just love to feel superior. I’m convinced the hostile vegans have joined the cause simply because they found a club to make them feel superior over others in much the same way radically religious types use that cause to do the same. They believe with such vigor because they need to for their own sense of self-worth rather than because they actually believe in the cause. If they really believed in the cause then they’d be welcoming of new members. They’re not welcoming and downright hostile to new members because that would expand the in-group and shrink the out-group they get to feel superior over.
I get it, I mean that approach has worked for online leftists . . . oh wait
Did it more ham than good though?
I assume they mean harm as in reinforcing the “snobbish” stereotype that vegans are known for, and OP’s screenshot demonstrates the same thing- potentially turning people away from considering the diet themselves.
You’re helping the planet and animals by not eating them, but if your snobbery turns 10 people off from adopting that diet, then I’d say you’ve hypothetically done more harm than good too lol
I think they meant ham as a pun.
I guess the ends justify the beans
Quit hamming it up
We have a Veganism is militant and a Veganism must be nice here.
Oh wow a hostile and pretentious herbavore. Never seen one of those before.
Sir, this is a circlejerk
This would sure bother them if they could read!
Wow a omnivore who can’t form a sentence without mentioning bacon, haven’t seen one of those before.
It’s a special category of food for them. They don’t even consider it meat. It’s some sort of icon. To be fair, I have witnessed a pair of vegans fawn over carob chips in exactly the same way. I’d love it if we could eat rationally without the fetishizing.
No you haven’t, carob chips suck
Literally Hitler
Never heard the term before, thanks for the user name inspiration; this shit is metal!
That was my thought, lol.
Finding this place on all is the best that has ever happened to me.
Wouldn’t say it is making me vegan, but who knows. Maybe one day you guys might be the ones to convince me
Jim is literally hitler.
I wish I could claim to be that based
Vegan is more than a diet so I get their shitting response. A good reason I always used plant-based and just advocated for people to eat more veg and less meat/dairy.
Great way to go out of business.
Great way to lose your current clientele that doesn’t support murder, not attract other clientele who’d rather eat McDonald’s, and still go out of business while giving away your spine.
What are they gonna do, go to all the other Vegan joints?
Whoever they are, they’re my hero 🤩
For turning more people away from the idea of being a vegan? Me too! Less elitist jerks to deal with, yay!
Ew, imagine being vegan, no thanks. Not murdering for selfish reasons sounds awful. My pleasure is the most important thing there is, I’m not going to let some beta cuck emotion like empathy fuck that up for me.
Nah, I just mean they’re all jerks. Like the guy in the post and you. You hurt your cause more than you realize bud.
Thank goodness, vegans are the worst. I hope I’m convincing you not to go vegan with my behavior, as opposed to the behavior you think would convert you that hasn’t. We can’t lose another fragile meat eater to the rude vegan cult.
Read this exchange again and see who is fragile here. Surely you want people to eat less meat? Why would you not try to encourage that instead of behaving in this way?
Vegans aren’t the worst, assholes who behave like you and the restaurant owner are. It just so happens that an unfortunate amount of vegans are also assholes, which really makes it hard engage with you.
This is a circlejerk community for vegans.
It’s making fun of the circle jerk, that’s what these “circle jerk” communities have always been about. It’s showing the irony of someone complimenting vegan food only to be attacked and insulted because they still eat meat. The same way you are attacking people. If anything you are driving more people away from the lifestyle you want to popularize.
Lol, just keep pushing people away by being an ass then blaming everyone else. Few things you can always count on with a vegan. They’ll tell you they’re vegan, they’ll treat you poorly once they realize you aren’t one, then they’ll blame you for everything wrong in the food industry. Ugh, get a personality.
There’s a reason everyone is down voting you, and it’s not because you’re vegan. A little self reflection might do wonders.
Look at where you are posting and stop taking things so seriously. My goodness.
Lol me? You’re the one who got butt hurt that people eat meat and started to go at people.
You need to take a look in the mirror man, hard. Because me spelling it out for you just made you hand wave it away harder.
Anyone who pays for animals to be killed for their pleasure is an animal abuser and a piece of shit.
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Im plenty critical of militant vegans, but thats a bit unfair. Industrial ranching is a big contributor to climate change, theres a well-reasoned argument I see alot
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I mean the difference is that concrete has a function and is largely irreplaceable. The argument most vegans make is that animals are not functionally needed in order to fulfill the “food” requirement of living. Concrete is, by large, used for houses and structures which provide shelter, and there are no viable alternatives.
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For sure, but that applies to literally everything - decarbonization of the energy grid/moving away from gas is a huge factor for literally every aspect of life, particularly farming and red meat. The energy involved in creating meat is significantly higher than any other foods, which is why I disagreed with your point. We have an alternative for meat, but there isnt one for concrete. Using it as a comparison is a poor argument.
Arguing that conditionally essential amino acids are not found elsewhere is a misleading argument. In addition to the fact that all of those three can be created by your body, Taurine is found in lentils, a staple of many vegan diets, seaweed can contain creatine, and carnitine can be found in trace amounts in most foods. None of them are as dense as meat, for sure, but there are numerous sources, plus supplements.
To reduce the environmental impact of food, which applies to all food and not just meat, we need to accept the idea of not having excess of everything. We don’t need 5 different cuts of meat from 3 different brands. We don’t need 5 different kinds of apples. We don’t need a whole shopping isle filled with… Goodness knows how many different kinds of cereal.
Definitely agree with this, but its probably just as hard a sell, and much less feasible to do on an individual level.
Fair point>
They said: anyone
That’s very different from a specific complaint about factory farming and industrial ranching
Humans need their factory meat. Even back in the stone ages
So you’re fine with hunting and small scale agriculture I take it?
I agree. The sooner we switch to a partial cannibalistic diet the sooner we can settle this. There, I’ve confused everyone.
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Fuck I love having materials from other lifeforms inside of me
Same
… What? Humans are made of meat. As far a I’ve read, they’re fairly delicious, too. Eating carnivores is also fine.
Now, if you’re trying to only eat the safest, most energy efficient forms of meat, don’t eat people or carnivores. But just in terms of the nutrients contained within, meat is meat.
What if I don’t enjoy it but still pay for it anyway?
Okay, but why would you do that? If you don’t like it, don’t put it in your face.
Well that’s just senseless violence
oh yeah, tell me how disgusting I am for eating a poor little piggy 😳
The pig was likely gassed or shot to death. Its body was then cut in half with a large saw, then hung on a conveyor to be dismembered.
Okay, real talk, I don’t really care what they do to the animals after they’re dead, as long as it’s hygienic.
The real problem is how they are treated during their lives, and how they’re killed. There are farms ranging from pretty bad to “absolutely horrible hellish shit you wouldn’t believe” bad.
Okay, real talk, there’s no ethical way to kill someone who’s done nothing to you and didn’t want to die.
We should therefore be farming boomers instead. Gimme those daddy steaks
Okay, real talk, the concept of ethics in general is a human construct. One that is impossible to apply across all cultures, and even when they are accepted as social mores, they are illogically applied and are often full of internal contradictions.
For example, if it’s unethical to “kill someone who’s done nothing to you and didn’t want to die.”, then can we assume it’s ethical to kill something that has slighted us? Or is it okay to kill something that isn’t conscious of it’s mortality?
How do we determine if something doesn’t want to die? How do we delineate the difference between something like zooplankton or krill from plants?
I don’t really eat meat, but that’s mostly for health and environmental harm reduction. However, I understand that humans are imperfect beings, and have different social mores to adhere too. Out of all the evil man has unleashed over our evolution, I would hardly say that consuming animal products is anywhere close to the top of the list.
Plus, I think the way the west classifies veganism is a bit culturally insensitive. Different cultures subscribe to different interpretations of attributes when defining traits to life forms than in the west.
For example, there are Buddhist monks in Korea that eat a “vegan diet”, except their kimchi is made with krill. Now if you ask if they eat meat or animals, they will tell you no. However, culturally krill aren’t really considered an animal, they’re viewed more as a plant.
I would hardly call a person who’s spent their entire lives living off of plants a carnist or “bloodmouth”, just because they eat a little krill. But, I would like to hear your opinion on the matter.
Good thing a pig isn’t someone.
Why?
Because pig is not person…
I agree, but we don’t like to use pig as a slang term for police here. Do better.
Fuck, I’ve called cops pigs, I don’t get your point.
Are you saying pigs should have guns or that we should eat cops. I’m honestly down for either.
Thank God it’s shot to death, it would be really awkward if it was just wounded
Tell me more why that would be awkward.
Even a wounded animal is going to respond physically to the sound of a saw. Then you have to consider what will happen when the half dead body of a 900lb pig is placed on a cold steel plate and slowly pushed into a sharp fast moving band saw. A half alive pig would take a few people to hold it down and get the job done.
If you go ass first, damn things would probably kick and scream for a good 5 minutes before it would succumb to the injuries. Would be better to go head first really.
On second thought, for the health of the consumer, the food meat animal would need to be gutted before it was cut on the band saw. Yeah, gutting a half living meat sack would be much harder than a dead one. Very awkward. Maybe if it were dead enough it might even live for an extra few minutes. One might say that would be an advantage over being killed instantly with a bolt to the skull. You had a few more minutes of life, no matter how painful they might have been.
Paralysed maybe, not able to move our scream. A soft gloved hand stroking the skin. A cold, sharp pinch as a gutting knife quickly penetrates your body. Just a few more seconds now. The blade expertly guided up the abdomen. The flow of warm blood flowing over the legs. A sudden feeling of coldness as the blood drains, one last breath taken. Never exhaled.
BRB! My bacon is ready.
Wait come back, I’d almost finished
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right in the plant feels
The best part is that farming animals kills more plants than just eating them directly
Actually you have me convinced now, gonna go chow down on a cow. I fucking hate plants 😡🌲🔪
Finally
You’re filthy. A worm! You horrid little slut
Thank you sir may I have another!
Oh, don’t tease me, I need more
please don’t slutshame.
…or wormshame.
I might just buy hamburger tonight to spite you now lol
Wow you showed him epic style
Okay cool, have fun abusing animals out of spite. I hope you’re still able to think of yourself as a good person
They will and they will, most likely.
Okay cool, I’m specifically going to have lamb for lunch right now, because not only is it meat, but it’s baby meat.
This is what vegans winning looks like.
Cool, have fun eating dead baby.
I’m going to feed my cat meat that I purchased at the grocery store! And share some with her!
I did! and it was delicious, because I covered the flesh with butter from its mother!
I’m sure it made you feel like a good person
why the fuck would I care about that? it’s food. it made me feel sated and happy.
also: seasoned with vegan tears.
Put hands on me and see how my animal reacts!
so… the majority of people? or specifically people in meat processing?
Yeah I often don’t pay. I slit animal’s throats and butcher them myself if sausage/ground meat is the intent. Real butcher i pay if I want nicely cut steaks.
No way this guy is not a shill from big meat
