For those wanting to build a Wayland-only Linux desktop experience without carrying any aging X11 baggage, GNOME 47 will be able to optionally offer Wayland-only support without carrying X11/X.Org support. This Mutter merge request landed today that allows compiling Mutter with X11 support disabled. That landed today along with this GNOME Shell merge request for being able to disable X11 support too.

  • wer2@lemm.ee
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    3 days ago

    XOrg is my daily driver for these reasons:

    1. I mostly use XFCE, which doesn’t have Wayland yet
    2. last time I tried Wayland (long time ago now on Gnomr), it was buggy and didn’t work
    3. I don’t change my setups that much, so I haven’t tried it since
    4. I don’t need the features Wayland offers/XOrg covers my use cases
    5. Wayland drama

    That being said, I have no fundamental opposition to Wayland, and will probably use it someday.

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      2 days ago

      Those are all good reasons. XFCE aims to support Wayland with the next release, so if they choose to use an established compositor it shouldn’t be too buggy.

      With XFCE porting their apps over the setup shouldn’t change much, unless you’re using Xorg specific tools.

      Over the last few years most features I’d expect from a windowing system were added to Wayland, so I expect the drama to cool down. (I don’t even know what’s still missing (except accessibility), with VRR, tearing, DRM leasing (VR), and global hotkeys being done. It’s just apps like Discord that have to cave in under the pressure to fix their apps.)

      Once everything works, there’s no point talking about it.

      @Furycd001@fosstodon.org

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      3 days ago

      @wer2 @Chewy7324 exactly the same here. I too daily drive XFCE, never really change my setup, and don’t require anything special that wayland offers. My setup just works for the most part…