Wisconcom DMed me this during his last infiltration attempt.

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    2 years ago

    Anyone who is banging on about “dengism” needs to log off and crack open a book. Just displays a blatant lack of understanding of dialectical materialism in my opinion

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    I clicked that and choose random quote in there. Oh look, it’s Stalin:

    The heroes of the Second International asserted (and continue to assert) that between the bourgeois-democratic revolution and the proletarian revolution there is a chasm, or at any rate a Chinese Wall, separating one from the other by a more or less protracted interval of time, during which the bourgeoisie having come into power, develops capitalism, while the proletariat accumulates strength and prepares for the “decisive struggle” against capitalism. This interval is usually calculated to extend over many decades, if not longer. It scarcely needs proof that this Chinese Wall “theory” is totally devoid of scientific meaning under the conditions of imperialism, that it is and can be only a means of concealing and camouflaging the counter-revolutionary aspirations of the bourgeoisie.

    Is this supposed to be argument against Deng and current CPC? Hoxhaists are the ones claiming there is a wall between socialism and “dengism” (capitalism as they like to say). How it feel to be antirevisionist to the point of standing among the “heroes of the Second International”? Btw what about Lenin? I guess building productive forces using controlled capitalism is “Dengism” too? Wait, but since Lenin did it earlier, it should be named “Leninism”? Maybe even “Marxism-Leninism”? The guy who wrote that quote seemed to think it was pretty ok.

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      2 years ago

      These “anti-Dengist” ultras would’ve denounced the USSR as revisionist after the NEP.

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          While that is an interesting section, and I thank you for sharing it, in terms of comparing the NEP to modern China it doesn’t really do anything. It’s whole point in regards to China is “Well I mean it’s just been going on too long, the NEP in the USSR only lasted 10 years”. Modern China isn’t the 1920s USSR, if China going through this phase for a longer time is “wrong” you have to explain why the material conditions of China specifically don’t call for this. You can’t just equate two completely different states like they’re just identical.

          In fact, the section does a better job defending China. It discusses why the NEP was beneficial due to the large peasant population and small scale production, but then it just says “This didn’t exist in China”. Uh, excuse me? In what world? China freed itself from feudalism just like 20 years before Deng. 80% of the population was in agricultural work while the remaining 20% were industrial, how did this not apply to China?