If you have a dynamic pricing contract of course you get a discount… If you don’t, you chose not to in return for price stability 🤷
Though yeah, last time prices went negative in Germany I was still paying 10ct/kWh in just taxes and fees. Would be pretty cool if they’d have paid me for using electricity during that time, but of course that’s not how that works.
Edit—I forgot the most important bit: Obviously that doesn’t mean that we should invest less in renewables, but that we should invest in large-scale battery research like yesterday.
You… You think a battery is a magic physics defying substance?
I mean, I don’t see capitalism beeing a way to solve the climate crisis and do belive that degrowth is going to happen (by design or desaster), but the success of renewable energy is very much a capitalism success story.
Clearly they only think bigger, better batteries are magic and physics defying. The batteries we have now are the best batteries that physics allows for, and they can’t be made more or bigger because… We already used up all the stuff for them. Yeah, that tracks.
Thats because the majority of the cost is not in the direct cost of generation but in maintaining the grid. That’s a fixed expense that does not fluctuate and there is no way generation costs will offset maintenance costs.
Though it won’t show up as negative in the bill, not even a discount
If you have a dynamic pricing contract of course you get a discount… If you don’t, you chose not to in return for price stability 🤷
Though yeah, last time prices went negative in Germany I was still paying 10ct/kWh in just taxes and fees. Would be pretty cool if they’d have paid me for using electricity during that time, but of course that’s not how that works.
Negative prices aren’t necessarily a good thing because they tend to curb investments. A Reddit comment explains it well: https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/1didv4q/comment/l938q2a/
Edit—I forgot the most important bit: Obviously that doesn’t mean that we should invest less in renewables, but that we should invest in large-scale battery research like yesterday.
Yea if only magic physics defying substances existed. Surely capitalism would be able to solve our problems.
You… You think a battery is a magic physics defying substance?
I mean, I don’t see capitalism beeing a way to solve the climate crisis and do belive that degrowth is going to happen (by design or desaster), but the success of renewable energy is very much a capitalism success story.
Clearly they only think bigger, better batteries are magic and physics defying. The batteries we have now are the best batteries that physics allows for, and they can’t be made more or bigger because… We already used up all the stuff for them. Yeah, that tracks.
The classic capitalist solution “make it bigger, make more of it, there are absolutely zero limits.”
Quick question, how big would a battery have to be to power a single city of >1000000 for a single day, show your work.
Depends on where you live. With my tariff I get paid to use energy during negative price periods.
Edit: typo.
*paid
rope gets payed out.
money gets paid.
Fixed :)
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Thats because the majority of the cost is not in the direct cost of generation but in maintaining the grid. That’s a fixed expense that does not fluctuate and there is no way generation costs will offset maintenance costs.
It does here