I know Trump’s word is worth less than dogshit, but hypothetically, he’s now the harm reduction candidate when it comes to Ukraine.

Of course the liberals of reddit are hand-wringing about Putin and “tHe FrEe WoRlD”

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    Prediction:

    He is gonna get elected and but wont cut of the aid.

    chuds are gonna praise and like he did something.

    Libs are gonna cry that he surrendering to Russia

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    My favorite part about tbis is that democrats have no desire to put in place safeguards to prevent him from doing this (even though he’s subservient to the deep state as anyone else). They’ll cry and blame tankies and Putler and 50 cent armies but they will do absolutely nothing to prevent Trump from ruining their agenda.

    Useless freaks. Even if i cared about voting and ukraine, i wouldn’t vote for the losers who are incapable and/or unwilling to use their powers to crush their opponents. Unless they’re unarmed college students of course.

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    Vote for Trump, he’s the harm reduction candidate

    spoiler

    I’m doing a bit referencing how people argued we should vote for Biden last election I don’t actually think this please don’t get mad at me blob-on-fire

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    oh no what ever will the ukrainians do without the US privatizing their economy, fueling their civil war, and demanding they fight endlessly against Russia in one of the most pointless murderfests of all time.

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    This is why he won’t win. Way too many bourgeois interests tied up in Ukraine now, especially if the theory that the Democrats are running a money laundering front in Ukraine for their proxies is true (and also explains why the MAGA Republicans would want to cut off that channel).

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        I would have believed this if the Republicans hadn’t spent months trying to block the $60 bil Ukraine bill.

        Like, I would need a very good explanation of why the Republicans would block such a spending bill if this was a bipartisan issue.

        It literally took an Iranian strike on Israel (which was 100% provoked by the US) to force the bill on the floor and they finally got it passed together with another $26 bil to Israel.

        The Republicans weren’t worried about their voter base (come on, the Republican voters would believe anything their masters say), they were afraid of the Democrats poaching their donors away because the Democrats have now set up a special money laundering shop in Ukraine that as long as the war keeps going, they can blatantly pass 100s of billions of spending there with little oversight. Everyone who has been missing out now wants a slice of that big pie. How do you get into the club? By getting behind the Democrats and Joe Biden.

        This actually also explains why the Republicans had been so intent on crucifying Hunter Biden, because he is a prominent link that exposes the Biden family and their proxies to the Ukraine laundering operation.

        I am not saying that this is the truth, but it all makes sense when you see it this way and piecing together all the events that happened over the past 2 years. Also, this is literally how AIPAC works, a money laundering front for Israeli money (funded by the US federal government) to flow back to both Republicans and Democrats in Washington.

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          Like, I would need a very good explanation of why the Republicans would block such a spending bill if this was a bipartisan issue.

          I wonder if there was an increase in MIC flavored campaign donations before the vote that the Repubs decided to stop fighting the bill on?

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    He may promise to shift from Ukraine to China, to escalate another trade war and more. I don`t know which one the CPC prefers but certainly Trump is even more likely to do something stupid in Taiwan specially if they pitch it to him like an opportunity to surpass Biden.

    He may be better on Ukraine but he is same or worse everywhere else. Everything points towards China now so if he realizes he can trade Ukraine with his own war against China he will get broad support from everyone except the few aligned with the tech megacorps and he is just as likely to win.

    Putin was willing to negotiate before the war, but the CPC can only continue to compromise up to a certain point.

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      :yea: as I understand it, militarily, the American empire is using Ukraine to encircle Russia first then using their experience there to use what they learn for the fascists in the RoC. But because chuds think Russia is based, they want to go on all out war with China immediately because of gommulism.

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        Imagining a cold, calculating general trying to explain this strategy to a state department ghoul who’s wearing branded merch from every arms dealer in the country and who keeps miming rubbing dollar bills together and grinning and interrupting to say “this guy knows what I’m talking about” and elbowing the similarly dressed CIA ghoul next to him.

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    doubt just needs the MIC to cut him in or lean on him like obviously happened with the GOP house speaker

    That April 2022 peace deal is going to have been the best deal the average civilian governed by UA could’ve gotten this decade… Obviously so, because it would have avoided most of the refugee crisis, risk of thermonuclear escalation and winter, destruction of built environment, and some of both the further entrenching of the existing fascist oligarchy & requisite IMF/World Bank loans and austerity to rebuild shittier.

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    Trump only wants to pull out of Ukraine in order to intensify the focus on China. Biden wants to weaken Russia first because he thinks China can’t be beat before they are isolated.