We build Signal in the open, with publicly available source code for our applications and servers. To keep Signal a free global communication service without spam, we must depart from our totally-open posture and develop one piece of the server in private: a system for detecting and disrupting spam campaigns. Unlike encryption protocols, which are designed to be provably secure even if everyone knows how they work, spam detection is an ongoing chore for which there is no concrete resolution and for which transparency is a major disadvantage.

  • PandaCoderPL@lemmy.ml
    51·
    3 years ago

    Signal is centralized and you can’t verify what is running on the server so does it really change anything? I think it doesn’t, so people should stop panicking and switch to some decentralized messengers like Session instead.

    • M500@lemmy.ml
      2·
      3 years ago

      THIS! We have no way of knowing what they are actually doing on their servers so I don’t 100% trust them. Maybe like 90% trust. This really doesn’t change anything.

      • PandaCoderPL@lemmy.ml
        21·
        3 years ago

        I don’t know where did you get that 90% from but IMO people shouldn’t trust them at all and should use decentralized platforms instead.

      • PandaCoderPL@lemmy.ml
        01·
        3 years ago

        Could you at least tell me any reasons why you wouldn’t use Session? Nobody will take you seriously if you have no arguments to back up your statement.

    • Echedenyan@lemmy.ml
      0·
      3 years ago

      Try Status instead of Session.

      Fully FLOSS and their developers are not dicks who prioritize “muh dont want fixed notification” to digital rights.

      • PandaCoderPL@lemmy.ml
        0·
        3 years ago

        Try Status instead of Session.

        I tried it in the past and I was welcomed with messages from scammers and no moderation in any groups that I saw. I may give it second chance one day though.

        Fully FLOSS and their developers are not dicks who prioritize “muh dont want fixed notification” to digital rights.

        Session is quite new project, gains much more users then Status and thus generates more issues. If you would be a developer and you would prioritize fixing notifications that work for most users anyway over working on new open group server implementation to mitigate spam then your project wouldn’t last long. As a user I would rather see no notifications than get lots of spam that would make the platform unusable.

        • Echedenyan@lemmy.ml
          1·
          3 years ago

          I would recommend you that you read the current thread about what I am talking about.

          They were able, they invested time and they just integrated shitty polling without removing nonFree material because they didnt want to consider fixed notification.

          They even memed the F-Droid port.

          https://github.com/oxen-io/session-android/issues/73

          I was in that discussion and I know what they told and what they did.

          They memed by telling untrue things even with a main F-Droid maintainer inside.