• Dasus@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    still the frontrunner for president to be legally elected in 2024.

    The front runner? Really?

    I’m not being sarcastic. Im genuinely interested, but can’t be arsed to start going through polls because it’d mean going through the biases of the pollers.

    • Euphorazine@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      Just remember polls gave Hillary almost a guaranteed win. For all intents and purposes, Trump is the front runner regardless of what any polling says

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        2 months ago

        And the result were statistically within what they predicted. She did get the popular vote but lost in key states where the margins were small.

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        2 months ago

        No, they did not. That’s not what happened.

        Polling probably has taken a dive in accuracy since then, though. Uptake in cell phone use in younger generations has been lingering over the industry for a long time, and it’s finally caught up with them.

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          2 months ago

          https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

          72% chance from here. Probably high enough that swing state voters opted to stay home. This was the vibe practically all October. The FBI felt confident enough in her win to announce they were investigating her to appear unbiased.

          Polling being inaccurate for whatever reason doesn’t change the article after article assuring everyone Hillary had it in the bag.

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            2 months ago

            72% chance means Trump needed to flip two coins and have them both come up heads. It’s not that ridiculous.

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      2 months ago

      From the nearly all the polls I see, yes. But like you said, bias of pollers. I’ve seen a few that go more in depth to try and figure out the “responds to polls” bias, but I still only see biden ahead by a margin. With those small numbers of concentrated effort vs the wide reach general polls, trump is. It does not instill any level of confidence in me that the “general” polls don’t reflect the “general” voting bias. Even without all of this analysis, just a few million voting for trump is unbelievably concerning to not just the future of the US, but the world that this single country dominates. These fascists are campaigning on the cut your nose to spite your face philosophy.